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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
Just questions about évolutions of WCG.
Since the start of this pahse of the project I could'nt get only one WU of DDDT2. Due to I don't know exactly what, probably my two small duos are... too small. I discover today the new project, CEP2, reserved to LINUX OSes in a first time, and after, probably reserved to big scale machines, i.e. not mines... Never mind, I can crunch on other projects and still give all the computer time I can afford to science. Badges and all are a nice game, but just a game; Science first ! My question is : the two last project seem to concern only large systems. Is it a tendance for all the forecoming projects ? Could not such an orientation exclude a lot of potential crunchers who own only small computers ? Is it not the interest and the strength of WCG to gather ALL the good wills, including those who can't afford huge systems ? Wouldn't it be a big loss for the projets to exclude all those ones ? Or am I wrong ? |
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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
U're completly wrong
 this is exactly the strength of WCG....to compute very large objects with many "small devices".......... One of my devices is a 0.8MHz with 512MB RAM and is still computing in FFAH and HPF..... and if u realy want to help, isn't it equal in what project u spend your time ?  and now.... CRUNCH CRUNCH CRUNCH CRUNCH Greez Marcel |
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JmBoullier
Former Community Advisor Normandy - France Joined: Jan 26, 2007 Post Count: 3716 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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"This is not a problem, an issue or a complaint !"
----------------------------------------This is not a good thread title either!  Legrandpiou I know I will surprise you since you always start a new thread to ask your questions but there are people who try to find answers by themselves before asking questions, and such useless thread titles don't help them... Regarding your first question, no it is not a tendency, it is just particular circumstances. And no, DDDT2 and CEP2 are not reserved to large systems. I have just read tonight that a member has his netbook crunching CEP2. Regarding why you have got no DDDT2 WUs yet (like most members) this has been explained, answered and discussed at length in the DDDT2 section of the forum. Regarding why CEP2 has some bandwidth restrictions and why it is phased to Mac and Windows progressively see the announcement and other threads in the CEP2 section of the forum as well as related Research pages of the website. ---------------------------------------- [Edit 1 times, last edit by JmBoullier at Jul 2, 2010 1:49:37 AM] |
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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
Sorry for the title, I just wanted to assert that I'm not running afer badges, nor frustrated of missing some ones... And to answer to Baschtki01, I do keep on crunching what I get....
About DDDT2, I tried to undestand, but the forum is bushy and I'm not a specialist. Never mind... I've read the annoucment of CEP2, and what I understood was effectively it was going to need large computers, when it's phased with windows. Sorry to be a computer twit... |
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Hypernova
Master Cruncher Audaces Fortuna Juvat ! Vaud - Switzerland Joined: Dec 16, 2008 Post Count: 1908 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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Don't worry Legrandpiou, you will allways be able to crunch any project sooner or later, it is a matter of time. WCG stands for World Community Grid which means it all. It would be dead wrong to feel discriminated, but there can be temporary technical issues here and there which are part of normal life for such a large and complex system.
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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
Sorry for the title, I just wanted to assert that I'm not running afer badges, nor frustrated of missing some ones... And to answer to Baschtki01, I do keep on crunching what I get.... About DDDT2, I tried to undestand, but the forum is bushy and I'm not a specialist. Never mind... I've read the annoucment of CEP2, and what I understood was effectively it was going to need large computers, when it's phased with windows. Sorry to be a computer twit... To try and summarize it one more time then: You (and everybody else including me) can (almost) not get any DDDT-2 workunits because there are not enough DDDT-2 workunits. The reason is that the scientists have to use the results of the earlier workunits to create new workunits. As we are still in the project startup the scientists want to study the results before making the new ones to make sure that what we do is scientificly usefull & not wasted effort. I.e. not related to big computers at all. In most projects the workunits consists of a number of small files (100kB per wu?) and the results you send back are also small. This means the network bandwidth needed is limited, which is perfect for distributed computing. It also means that WCG will never ever use up your whole networking budget (many people are only allowed to upload/download a number of MB every month). CEP2 workunits however consist of large input files, and the result files are also very big. Therefore much larger bandwidth is required to download & upload the workunits, and someone crunching CEP2 will upload & download hundreds or thousands of MB every month. For this reason WCG has decided you need to have a big enough internet connection to be able to receive CEP2 workunits. I.e. again not related to big computers at all. Like mentioned you can run CEP2 on a netbook as long as this is connected to internet with at least 1Mbit up/down. Currently it is Linux only, but Windows & Mac should come in a couple of weeks. [Edit 3 times, last edit by Former Member at Jul 3, 2010 6:26:40 AM] |
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Sekerob
Ace Cruncher Joined: Jul 24, 2005 Post Count: 20043 Status: Offline |
The latest WCG BOINC version 6.10.57 (in test **) has a bandwidth budget setting. e.g. if you're on a total allowance of 50GB monthly (without paying extra) and you want to preserve some for other use, set BOINC to e.g. 1000Mbytes day. The client will stop downloading / uploading when reached and resume when the new day starts. All work already on the client will of course be finished even if transmission is on hold.
----------------------------------------** 6.10.58 is now in test, but not yet in WCG custom kit. There's on improved diagnostics/messaging for BOINC Manager not being able to connect to the core client and more robustness preventing the client to crash out because of a GPU issue, causing the connect issue to be experienced.
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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
i have many systems 15 at home 5 at work 3 at my brothers and 3 more at friends houses....
only 1 system amd x4 965 overclocked and water cooled, is really powerful the rest are mainly single core and 6 dual core.... theese pc,s range from a dual pentium pro 333mhz and up... i get all kinds of jobs if available as all my pc,s are windows rather than linux for cep but soon work will be available for windows... dont lose hope you will get the same jobs as all else in time.... |
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