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Former Member
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Hi, I'm in a project for a long time, but I wonder one thing.
Who benefits from the achievements of the WCG. Who will it earns.Who holds patents. Pharmaceutical companies, universities? If you invented a cure for cancer, who earn on this and who will have to pay? Will mankind achieve the greatest benefits, or pharmaceutical corporations? Thanks for your reply. |
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martin64
Senior Cruncher Germany Joined: May 11, 2009 Post Count: 445 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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Who benefits from the achievements of the WCG. Maybe the answer is here, saying: "direct results of work done by the World Community Grid will be in the public domain." If the results are public domain, this means, in my view, that there are no patents. Regards, Martin  |
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Former Member
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The results may be in the public domain....but any drugs made from those results can be patented, otherwise why bother making them? Drug companies are in the business of making money, otherwise how do they pay their workers who make them/
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JmBoullier
Former Community Advisor Normandy - France Joined: Jan 26, 2007 Post Count: 3716 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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For most projects run here we are building knowledge bases that research teams need to go further.
----------------------------------------These knowledge bases will be/are available for free to anybody needing them. The work necessary between this preliminary step and, finally, a usable drug is considerable and these subsequent steps are subject to patents as appropriate. Think that we are shortening the long and tedious initial part and that, hopefully, we are finding leads which will attract researxh teams and save them many unsuccessful attempts. The first benefit for us is that drugs will be available sooner, and for those targetting rare diseases they will be available at all. Regarding the market price that will depend essentially on the complexity of the subsequent steps and on the competition that we are encouraging by providing the starting point to anybody who has the necessary skills. |
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nasher
Veteran Cruncher USA Joined: Dec 2, 2005 Post Count: 1423 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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corse the drug companies will make there money in the end.
----------------------------------------the big question is when will that end be. I personally feel this way if i can with my few computers and cpu's help cure any disease quicker it may save me or a friend of mine. Another thing to consider even if what you are wanting to get a cure for isnt "on the radar" the results here may also be used by those companies since the results are made public domain. and remember once they knock the BIG WELL KNOWN diseases out then all the lesser knows or ones that are not getting as much funding since the BIG ONES tend to get it.. well your chance on getting the pharmaceutical industrial interested in your disease of um desire to eradicate higher. any way you slice it you are progressing science and hopefully cures Over the past few months with the dealing with Thyroid cancer myself and my personal road to a remission my attitude has changed alot in the importance. Also if you spend $100 to donate to whatever society to the cure or treatment or whatever.. how much of that money actualy makes it? this way every penny of power you spend on this project goes towards the reserch  |
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Former Member
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The results may be in the public domain....but any drugs made from those results can be patented, otherwise why bother making them? Drug companies are in the business of making money, otherwise how do they pay their workers who make them/ I do not mind paying employees. The pharmaceutical business is needed as everyone else. I just want to make sure that there are some regulations which do not allow for abuse. You know I do not want to pay for a cure for cancer, five hundred thousand U.S. dollars, when you produce together with the payment of workers is, say, fifty thousand U.S. dollars (for example). If someone on the basis of WCG, will create medicine. Risking your money and putting the hard work, it should earn the money they deserve. Everything within reason, however, some pharmaceutical corporations greed knows no bounds, and certainly it is not human life. I think that there should be some regulations imposed on pharmaceutical companies are benefiting from the work of WCG. Not allowing for abuse but also allow to earn money. |
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Former Member
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....and who is going to impose these regulations? WCG /IBM only provide the service to run the software. Each of the projects 'owns' the software and results and the projects are all funded by different organisations.....
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TimAndHedy
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I do not mind paying employees. The pharmaceutical business is needed as everyone else. I just want to make sure that there are some regulations which do not allow for abuse. I have the same problems sometimes but as several people have said this will help cures come faster, it will not ensure that anyone can afford them. You will have to decide if that is good enough? Since the results are open to anyone that is about the best that can be done. |
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TimAndHedy
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Drug companies are in the business of making money, otherwise how do they pay their workers who make them Please don't defend big pharma. I always think of them in terms of a discussion(For Investors) I read about a Company Pricing a Drug for a rare but fatal disease. They figured that they could get $400,000 a year. Pricing breaks down when you die if you don't get it. At what point does it become extortion? |
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Former Member
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Please don't defend big pharma. |
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