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Re: Not sure how much longer they will be able to keep crunching in the UK

smile Hello, GeraldRube,
- it's been a long time.
I know you have your firm opinions which I shall not try to change.
But you cannot deny hypnotized perhaps you can hypnotized that the wind turbines produce clean energy, and that math and stats can be done in numerous ways.
Denmark has the largest manufacturer of wind turbines in the world and as far as I know, they also make the biggest ones. They may have some minuses - what doesn't? - but they are clean. And I never stop wondering how they weather wind storms the way they do even as a few mishaps occur - but not really in wind storms, rather fibre glass fatigue.

A recent tender for construction of a wind farm in Denmark's coastal waters came out surprisingly favorable. The electricity would be produced at breakeven or better eliminating the need for subsidies, which has helped this industy to where it is today.
And the wind never stops making 'em go 'round and 'round and 'round
- now how to store that energy for a windstill day?


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Important to know is that at this moment (as far as Belgium is concerned) electricity from wind-energy yields less than the price of electricity on the market, says this webpage in Dutch: https://www.mo.be/analyse/zoveel-kost-een-windmolen-en-zoveel-brengt-hij-op.
However, the cost of pollution hasn't been included for generating 'grey energy' (fossil fuel). If that would be included, it turns out that wind-energy (clean by definition, 'cause nothing is being burnt) will be cheaper than power from coal and natural gas, says this webpage in Dutch: https://www.natuurenmilieu.nl/themas/energie/...t/faq-windenergie-op-zee/ (* 'What does it cost? Is wind-energy expensive?').
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smile Hello, GeraldRube,
- it's been a long time.
I know you have your firm opinions which I shall not try to change.
But you cannot deny hypnotized perhaps you can hypnotized that the wind turbines produce clean energy, and that math and stats can be done in numerous ways.
Denmark has the largest manufacturer of wind turbines in the world and as far as I know, they also make the biggest ones. They may have some minuses - what doesn't? - but they are clean. And I never stop wondering how they weather wind storms the way they do even as a few mishaps occur - but not really in wind storms, rather fibre glass fatigue.

A recent tender for construction of a wind farm in Denmark's coastal waters came out surprisingly favorable. The electricity would be produced at breakeven or better eliminating the need for subsidies, which has helped this industy to where it is today.
And the wind never stops making 'em go 'round and 'round and 'round
- now how to store that energy for a windstill day?


The cleanest & best way is to keep energy in Hydrogen through electrolysis.
Why?
Well through combustion you can easily transfer back the energy & pollution is 0 when burning Hydrogen. You only get more heat into the World!

Batteries are not best choice. But never know what the future will bring?
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smile Hello, GeraldRube,
- it's been a long time.
I know you have your firm opinions which I shall not try to change.
But you cannot deny hypnotized perhaps you can hypnotized that the wind turbines produce clean energy, and that math and stats can be done in numerous ways.
Denmark has the largest manufacturer of wind turbines in the world and as far as I know, they also make the biggest ones. They may have some minuses - what doesn't? - but they are clean. And I never stop wondering how they weather wind storms the way they do even as a few mishaps occur - but not really in wind storms, rather fibre glass fatigue.

A recent tender for construction of a wind farm in Denmark's coastal waters came out surprisingly favorable. The electricity would be produced at breakeven or better eliminating the need for subsidies, which has helped this industy to where it is today.
And the wind never stops making 'em go 'round and 'round and 'round
- now how to store that energy for a windstill day?


smile Hello little mermaid smile I am all for clean energy and hopefully in the future we will have more of it--- wink
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The world’s first floating wind farm opened on 18 October by Nicola Sturgeon, off the east coast of Scotland.

The Hywind project delivers enough electricity to the national grid to power 20,000 homes, using the North Sea’s high wind.

Located 15 miles off the shore of Peterhead, Aberdeenshire, the 30MW wind farm is formed of five floating turbines that span across 2.5sqm of water.

The 6MW turbines rise 175m above sea level, making them taller than London’s Big Ben and Oslo’s Plaza, and extend 78m below the surface of the water, tied to the sea bed by cables.

The anchors used to stabilise the turbines stand at 16m and weigh 111 tonnes.

The 15-year Hywind project was developed by Statoil, the Norwegian energy firm, with the aid of Scottish companies, at the cost of £210mn (US$276mn).
http://www.energydigital.com/renewable-energy...-first-floating-wind-farm
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Climate Change Won’t Kill You – Having No Electrical Power Will
Anthropogenic Global Warming (AGW) or climate change is not the BIG problem its advocates make it out to be. Even if it could be proved that man is creating it through his use of hydro-carbon fossil fuels, it is not the truly BIG problem.

Climate change has always been a part of the Earth’s dynamic atmospheric system. During the last 2 billion years the Earth’s climate has alternated between a frigid “Ice House” climate, today’s moderate climate, , and a steaming “Hot House” climate, as in the time of the dinosaurs.
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2016/04/14/climat...no-electrical-power-will/
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Isn't that nice, GeraldRube?
Nowegian Hydro and Statoil that carried the project to fulfillment did it to get wiser and learn how it worked. They sunk money into it because they found it viable. And they do have a lot of money. So shouldn't we be happy that they choose to do that?

The first turbine was installed in a Norwegian fjord in April 2009. The turbine itself was a Siemens. For the first entire year of the turbine's test run, it yielded 7.3 GWh compared to the expected 3.5 GWh. The turbine experienced waves of up to 11 m ~ 36 feet. The floating installation does not give larger stress to the turbine than a land based installation would have done, and the stress from vibrations has been reduced compared to land based turbines.


Vestas is into another offshore development called WindFloat. They are good at dreaming up names in that industry. But I still don't understand how they can keep standing upright in that really foul weather of the North Sea can serve up. And does serve up.

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With a Huricane coming all the way there...& we can expect more in future! ;)
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Global Warming: The Imminent Crisis That Never Arrives
It's summer 2017 and the Arctic was supposed to be ice-free, hurricanes were going to be more frequent and more deadly, and sea levels should be rising alarmingly. Al Gore swore in his 2006 science fiction movie, "An Inconvenient Truth," that within a decade there would be a "true planetary emergency."

"Unless we act boldly and quickly to deal with the underlying causes of global warming, our world will undergo a string of terrible catastrophes," said Gore in the movie's introduction.

The grand storyteller also predicted in 2011 that "there will be no more snows" on Mt. Kilimanjaro "within the decade."
http://www.investors.com/politics/commentary/...risis-that-never-arrives/
and--http://www.investors.com/ipcc-report-wrong-about-climate-change-global-warming/
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Global Warming: The Imminent Crisis That Never Arrives
It's summer 2017 and the Arctic was supposed to be ice-free, hurricanes were going to be more frequent and more deadly, and sea levels should be rising alarmingly. Al Gore swore in his 2006 science fiction movie, "An Inconvenient Truth," that within a decade there would be a "true planetary emergency."

"Unless we act boldly and quickly to deal with the underlying causes of global warming, our world will undergo a string of terrible catastrophes," said Gore in the movie's introduction.

The grand storyteller also predicted in 2011 that "there will be no more snows" on Mt. Kilimanjaro "within the decade."
http://www.investors.com/politics/commentary/...risis-that-never-arrives/
and--http://www.investors.com/ipcc-report-wrong-about-climate-change-global-warming/

Well:
1. Ice on Arctic, well it's shrinking still: -
- https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/2017/nas...-expanded-range-this-year
- http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/
2. Hurricanes were more deadly than before...check some of them on Florida, Cuba...but also some of them reaching Great Britain. Did you hear that hurricanes reach GB before?
IRMA in FLorida - http://edition.cnn.com/2017/09/07/us/hurrican...uation-florida/index.html
OPHELIA in Great Britain: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-49730...ICANE-coming-Britain.html
3. Sea levels are rising, check info here: https://sealevel.nasa.gov/

& about that snow on Kilimanjaro, almost gone: https://www.google.hr/maps/place/Kilimand%C5%...336927!4d37.8087693?hl=hr
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