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Former Member
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I grew to pondering on this topic today. Credit is our most useful metric for how much actual work we are doing. However, computing power is always increasing, so we must do more and more work merely in order to stand still.
A simpler metric is active members, or even more simply, active hosts. The total members and hosts have (naturally) always been increasing, but the active members and hosts show a more complex story. I had hoped to use boincstats to get definite numbers, but they only go back 2 months. I do note that the "active" figures are strongly correlated to the numbers of new hosts/members per day. Anyone have any good ideas for where we could extract a longer history, particularly of active hosts? |
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Earlier this month, IBM received the Coffey International Award for its contributions to the World Community Grid. The award recognizes corporate programmes that have had a positive impact on at least one of the United Nations’ Millenium Development Goals.
“The scale, significance, power and potential of World Community Grid is impressive,” said Charles Duff, Chair of judges. “IBM has collaborated with a wide spectrum of research partners and encouraged businesses, community groups and individuals to provide free computational capacity to support international humanitarian projects.” WCG gains its power from the aggregated spare computing capacity of 1.3 million personal computers belonging to 460,000 volunteers from over 200 countries. “The judges salute IBM’s programme and hope that the recognition conferred by this award will encourage individuals everywhere to join with IBM so that more research can be completed even faster as part of this exciting, inspiring and innovative development initiative,” Duff continued. “We also challenge the business world at large to sign up to World Community Grid and help grow its potential to achieve even greater impact on the Millennium Development Goals and the world’s most pressing needs.” The Award was presented to Larry Hirst, Chairman IBM Europe Middle East Africa, by Prince Charles, the President of the annual Business in the Community Awards for Excellence, at a garden party reception on 6 July 2009. “A lot of important scientific research isn't happening,” said Hirst. “It lacks the funding for the supercomputing capacity that is needed to execute large and complex calculations. World Community Grid changes the rules. It's free and available to both public and not for profit organisations for use in humanitarian research that might not otherwise be performed. WCG is operated by IBM and provided for free to support not-for-profit humanitarian research projects. In total 14 projects are currently running or have completed their computational phase, involving teams of scientists from 35 research centres in six countries. Since 2004, WCG has provided research scientists with over 252,000 years of computer run-time and more than 290 million research results. Projects cover the three big topics of nutrition, disease and environment, contributing to five of the eight Millennium Development Goals. More than 400 organisations are official partners of the WCG, and many thousands more teams have formed through the site. For individuals, World Community Grid helps translate interest into awareness and engagement and promotes volunteerism. This collaborative technology enables people to contribute, altruistically or for deeper personal reasons. This is evidenced by the 200 to 250 new members who join each day, and by the level of dialogue IBM sees in this online community. “The Grid is about large scale volunteerism - utilising an individual's unused computer capacity to address scientific problems - and in doing so accelerates research breakthroughs that underpin the Millennium Development Goals,” Hirst said. “This helps to make the world a smarter, better place.” |
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Former Member
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Anyone have any good ideas for where we could extract a longer history, particularly of active hosts? This might partially help |
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Former Member
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That's a good idea, I had discounted the web archive because it doesn't archive images. But it has the active users and hosts listed, for some dates at least.
Sadly there's nothing from 2008, which is unfortunate since UD wasn't discontinued until May, making data before then is hard to interpret. Looking at the 2007-12-22 data, we have twice as many active users now, but we have 100 000 fewer active hosts. Very odd. |
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Ingleside
Veteran Cruncher Norway Joined: Nov 19, 2005 Post Count: 974 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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Well, http://stats.kwsn.net/project.php?proj=wcg shows a monthly graph, but also includes graphs for last 12 months, so is a nice starting-point.
----------------------------------------Based on this, WCG has had a continuous increase, but had a spike in June, and has afterwards dropped a little. Now, a little drop during the summer is normal, but it will be interesting if WCG can continue growing, or has flat-lined like some of the other BOINC-projects seems to have been doing... ![]() "I make so many mistakes. But then just think of all the mistakes I don't make, although I might." |
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darth_vader
Veteran Cruncher A galaxy far, far away... Joined: Jul 13, 2005 Post Count: 514 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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<snip> Looking at the 2007-12-22 data, we have twice as many active users now, but we have 100 000 fewer active hosts. Very odd. I suppose the data isn't available, but one could speculate that some or most of it is due to system consolidation. A lot of x86 systems can easily merge 10 to 1 under one of the various VMware type products. - D |
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David Autumns
Ace Cruncher UK Joined: Nov 16, 2004 Post Count: 11062 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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many moons ago I put together this
----------------------------------------http://www.wcgwiki.org/membersandyears.cfm Give it some time the graphs are created on the fly I could reverse engineer it to show the dates Progress (Run Time) is still fairly static given the number of additional crunchers joining and now multicore CPU's are "standard" 120,000 extra crunchers and no real curve to write home about in the cumulative years graph - that's quite sad We are not keeping them like we should be We had already broken 200 years a day when this graph kicked off..... ![]() |
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David Autumns
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if those 120,000 extra crunchers still just gave 8 working hours of a single single core machine
----------------------------------------That would be an extra 109 years a day ! Food for thought Dave ![]() [Edit 1 times, last edit by David Autumns at Aug 2, 2009 3:15:35 PM] |
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Former Member
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Why don't you try a detrended graph of runtime? Or, better yet just graph runtime per day. Then, we may be able to see more than the not quite straight line.
Sadly, total membership is an unhelpful number. It is a real pity WCG don't publish numbers of active members and devices. |
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