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confused Query on Speeding Up Task Completion using DuoCore

Can I config my DuoCore Notebook to complete task one by one with 2 cpu chips at full speed rather than one task per chip since I don't want to have two task incompleted at the end of the date sad

Thanks in advance. riz. smile
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Re: Query on Speeding Up Task Completion using DuoCore

An SMP / Multithreaded type science computation is in development over at another (starting?) project, and BOINC is only learning about this since recently, so NO, you can't.

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Re: Query on Speeding Up Task Completion using DuoCore

I don't want to have two task incompleted at the end of the date


I'm not quite certain what you mean by this...

If it's a case of you shut your machine down on a regular basis (i.e. whilst transporting it between home/work etc.), then you'll only loose a small amount of work - as the respective WU's will resume from their last checkpoint.
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Re: Query on Speeding Up Task Completion using DuoCore

I don't want to have two task incompleted at the end of the date


I'm not quite certain what you mean by this...

If it's a case of you shut your machine down on a regular basis (i.e. whilst transporting it between home/work etc.), then you'll only loose a small amount of work - as the respective WU's will resume from their last checkpoint.

I think (not sure) what he meant was can you split a single running science app into 2 threads instead of one and run it on different cores at the same time. That way, in theory, you would complete the task in 1/2 the time.

As Sekerob said, that would require symetric multithreading. This is not to be confused with simultaneous multithreading (as found on new Intel i7 chips as well as older architectures). Both have the same acronym so it gets confusing.

Apps have to be specifically coded for the first kind of SMT. This is regularly done with apps running on super computers but is still uncommon for end user apps. The program has to be structured so that different parts of the processing don't have any dependence on the results produced by other parts of the program. So it is fairly straight forward for apps that are easily broken down into independent segments - things like telemetry processing, graphics encoding, etc.

I don't know how linear the science apps here are. In other words, can you simultaneously try different ligands on the same molecule or are the calculations interdependent. IDK.
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Re: Query on Speeding Up Task Completion using DuoCore

As Sekerob already said: BOINC does not support this, so no matter wat WCG would like to do in their sciences, it won't work. It might come in the future, but don't hold your breath...

In any case, if you are worried about long running workunits because you have a relatively slow computer you should consider only participating in projects that end workunits based on cpu time spend, rather than the work done. Any remaining work will then be made into a new workunits for another user.

These are (as far as I know):
Nutricious Rice for the World: Finishes the wu after 7 hours
Help Cure Muscular Dystrophy 2: Finishes the wu after 4 hours (unless the remaining work is very small, in which case it might run like 6 hours)

Doing 7 hours in a week should be feasible I assume? biggrin
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Re: Query on Speeding Up Task Completion using DuoCore

These checkpoint save every minute too, in fact if you let it, the default "at most" is 60 seconds, but HCMD2 can do them every few seconds depending on the position on hand ;>)

Caveat: The oh so wise of Berkeley have made the checkpoint saving a BOINC wide setting in 6.6. It was per-science. So 60 seconds on an Octo is now 8 minutes, at most... just that you know if running with 6.6 :O|
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