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Re: Communication deferred for 24h

OK - all changes made and accepted. After BOINC retstart I asked for an update and then waited for the 'communication deferred 24h' message before copying the mesage log. It looks like this:
2009/06/23 07:11:20 PM Starting BOINC client version 6.6.36 for windows_intelx86
2009/06/23 07:11:20 PM log flags: task, file_xfer, sched_ops, work_fetch_debug, sched_op_debug
2009/06/23 07:11:20 PM Libraries: libcurl/7.19.4 OpenSSL/0.9.8j zlib/1.2.3
2009/06/23 07:11:20 PM Data directory: C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\BOINC
2009/06/23 07:11:20 PM Running under account RaulB
2009/06/23 07:11:20 PM Processor: 1 GenuineIntel Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1700MHz [x86 Family 6 Model 9 Stepping 5]
2009/06/23 07:11:20 PM Processor features: fpu tsc sse sse2 mmx
2009/06/23 07:11:20 PM OS: Microsoft Windows XP: Professional x86 Edition, Service Pack 3, (05.01.2600.00)
2009/06/23 07:11:20 PM Memory: 1022.92 MB physical, 2.40 GB virtual
2009/06/23 07:11:20 PM Disk: 55.89 GB total, 31.83 GB free
2009/06/23 07:11:20 PM Local time is UTC +2 hours
2009/06/23 07:11:20 PM No CUDA devices found
2009/06/23 07:11:20 PM No coprocessors
2009/06/23 07:11:20 PM Not using a proxy
2009/06/23 07:11:21 PM SETI@home URL: http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/; Computer ID: 4450072; location: (none); project prefs: default
2009/06/23 07:11:21 PM World Community Grid URL: http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/; Computer ID: 636635; location: work; project prefs: work
2009/06/23 07:11:21 PM World Community Grid General prefs: from World Community Grid (last modified 29-Apr-2009 09:47:36)
2009/06/23 07:11:21 PM World Community Grid Computer location: work
2009/06/23 07:11:21 PM General prefs: using separate prefs for work
2009/06/23 07:11:21 PM Preferences limit memory usage when active to 511.46MB
2009/06/23 07:11:21 PM Preferences limit memory usage when idle to 767.19MB
2009/06/23 07:11:21 PM Preferences limit disk usage to 10.00GB
2009/06/23 07:11:21 PM [work_fetch_debug] Request work fetch: Prefs update
2009/06/23 07:11:21 PM [work_fetch_debug] Request work fetch: Startup
2009/06/23 07:11:21 PM [work_fetch_debug] Request work fetch: Backoff ended for SETI@home
2009/06/23 07:11:21 PM [wfd] ------- start work fetch state -------
2009/06/23 07:11:21 PM [wfd] target work buffer: 8640.00 + 43200.00 sec
2009/06/23 07:11:21 PM [wfd] CPU: shortfall 51840.00 nidle 1.00 est. delay 0.00 RS fetchable 0.00 runnable 0.00
2009/06/23 07:11:21 PM SETI@home [wfd] CPU: fetch share 0.00 debt 2914.76 backoff dt 0.00 int 0.00 (no new tasks)
2009/06/23 07:11:21 PM World Community Grid [wfd] CPU: fetch share 0.00 debt 0.00 backoff dt 0.00 int 0.00 (master fetch pending) (comm deferred)
2009/06/23 07:11:21 PM SETI@home [wfd] overall_debt 2915
2009/06/23 07:11:21 PM World Community Grid [wfd] overall_debt 0
2009/06/23 07:11:21 PM [wfd] ------- end work fetch state -------
2009/06/23 07:11:21 PM [wfd] No project chosen for work fetch
2009/06/23 07:12:15 PM World Community Grid General prefs: from World Community Grid (last modified 29-Apr-2009 09:47:36)
2009/06/23 07:12:15 PM World Community Grid Computer location: work
2009/06/23 07:12:15 PM General prefs: using separate prefs for work
2009/06/23 07:12:15 PM Preferences limit memory usage when active to 511.46MB
2009/06/23 07:12:15 PM Preferences limit memory usage when idle to 767.19MB
2009/06/23 07:12:15 PM Preferences limit disk usage to 10.00GB
2009/06/23 07:12:15 PM [work_fetch_debug] Request work fetch: Prefs update
2009/06/23 07:12:15 PM [work_fetch_debug] Request work fetch: Preferences override
2009/06/23 07:12:20 PM [wfd] ------- start work fetch state -------
2009/06/23 07:12:20 PM [wfd] target work buffer: 8640.00 + 43200.00 sec
2009/06/23 07:12:20 PM [wfd] CPU: shortfall 51840.00 nidle 1.00 est. delay 0.00 RS fetchable 0.00 runnable 0.00
2009/06/23 07:12:20 PM SETI@home [wfd] CPU: fetch share 0.00 debt 2914.76 backoff dt 0.00 int 0.00 (no new tasks)
2009/06/23 07:12:20 PM World Community Grid [wfd] CPU: fetch share 0.00 debt 0.00 backoff dt 0.00 int 0.00 (master fetch pending) (comm deferred)
2009/06/23 07:12:20 PM SETI@home [wfd] overall_debt 2915
2009/06/23 07:12:20 PM World Community Grid [wfd] overall_debt 0
2009/06/23 07:12:20 PM [wfd] ------- end work fetch state -------
2009/06/23 07:12:20 PM [wfd] No project chosen for work fetch
2009/06/23 07:12:29 PM World Community Grid update requested by user
2009/06/23 07:12:29 PM [work_fetch_debug] Request work fetch: project updated by user
2009/06/23 07:12:30 PM [work_fetch_debug] Request work fetch: Backoff ended for World Community Grid
2009/06/23 07:12:31 PM World Community Grid [sched_op_debug] Fetching master file
2009/06/23 07:12:31 PM World Community Grid Fetching scheduler list
2009/06/23 07:12:51 PM World Community Grid General prefs: from World Community Grid (last modified 29-Apr-2009 09:47:36)
2009/06/23 07:12:51 PM World Community Grid Computer location: work
2009/06/23 07:12:51 PM General prefs: using separate prefs for work
2009/06/23 07:12:51 PM Preferences limit memory usage when active to 511.46MB
2009/06/23 07:12:51 PM Preferences limit memory usage when idle to 767.19MB
2009/06/23 07:12:51 PM Preferences limit disk usage to 10.00GB
2009/06/23 07:12:51 PM [work_fetch_debug] Request work fetch: Prefs update
2009/06/23 07:12:51 PM [work_fetch_debug] Request work fetch: Preferences override
2009/06/23 07:15:59 PM World Community Grid [sched_op_debug] Deferring communication for 1 days 0 hr 0 min 0 sec
2009/06/23 07:15:59 PM World Community Grid [sched_op_debug] Reason: 17 consecutive failures fetching scheduler list
2009/06/23 07:15:59 PM [work_fetch_debug] Request work fetch: Master fetch complete
2009/06/23 07:16:04 PM [wfd] ------- start work fetch state -------
2009/06/23 07:16:04 PM [wfd] target work buffer: 8640.00 + 43200.00 sec
2009/06/23 07:16:04 PM [wfd] CPU: shortfall 51840.00 nidle 1.00 est. delay 0.00 RS fetchable 0.00 runnable 0.00
2009/06/23 07:16:04 PM SETI@home [wfd] CPU: fetch share 0.00 debt 2914.76 backoff dt 0.00 int 0.00 (no new tasks)
2009/06/23 07:16:04 PM World Community Grid [wfd] CPU: fetch share 0.00 debt 0.00 backoff dt 0.00 int 0.00 (master fetch pending) (comm deferred)
2009/06/23 07:16:04 PM SETI@home [wfd] overall_debt 2915
2009/06/23 07:16:04 PM World Community Grid [wfd] overall_debt 0
2009/06/23 07:16:04 PM [wfd] ------- end work fetch state -------
2009/06/23 07:16:04 PM [wfd] No project chosen for work fetch
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Re: Communication deferred for 24h

Yummie, let me research a bit or maybe a code expert knows. Meantime go visit My Grid > My Projects and hit the all projects box. Don't like the No project chosen for workfetch. That's why it defers.

Your work buffering default though are:

2009/06/23 07:16:04 PM [wfd] target work buffer: 8640.00 + 43200.00 sec

0.1 day connect and 0.5 days cache
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Re: Communication deferred for 24h

Also this one is not likeable:

2009/06/23 07:16:04 PM [wfd] CPU: shortfall 51840.00 nidle 1.00 est. delay 0.00 RS fetchable 0.00 runnable 0.00

This tells WCG is owed time, but

2009/06/23 07:15:59 PM World Community Grid [sched_op_debug] Reason: 17 consecutive failures fetching scheduler list

it's not connecting properly
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Re: Communication deferred for 24h

2009/06/23 03:11:44 PM Starting BOINC client version 6.6.36 for windows_intelx86

6.6.36 is not supported by WCG.....

And 6.2.28 isn't supported by SETI@home, since it's a waste of time to support something only 0.10% of users is running...


But, getting back to the problem, AFAIK there's only 3 reasons for a 24-hour deferral:
1; Unsupported platform, not the case here since windows_intelx86 is supported.
2; Too old BOINC-client, not the case here since v6.6.36 is the current BOINC-client.
3; Connection-problem to project-server. If you've got 10 failed scheduler-requests in a row, client will try re-downloading the "master file", and if this download fails, you'll get a 24-hour-deferral.

A quick look on the supplied log, reveals that #3 is the culprit:
2009/06/23 07:15:59 PM World Community Grid [sched_op_debug] Deferring communication for 1 days 0 hr 0 min 0 sec
2009/06/23 07:15:59 PM World Community Grid [sched_op_debug] Reason: 17 consecutive failures fetching scheduler list
2009/06/23 07:15:59 PM [work_fetch_debug] Request work fetch: Master fetch complete


So, any trouble-hunting will be to find out why can't connect, and one of the easiest things to try and that often fixes the problem, is to re-boot the computer.

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BTW, if my recollection isn't too fuzzy, before it was also possible to get 24-hour-deferral if not enough memory or not enough disk-space, but AFAIK this code was removed in case projects had different wu-types each with different requirements. While WCG's server-code is old, AFAIK it's not so old that this could be a reason...
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Re: Communication deferred for 24h

it said at the top
I have rebooted and tried again with the same result.

There's no proxy settings, but is there no proxy? Mobile devices do suffer from this penomena when it's forgotten to be put back on or off.
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it said at the top
I have rebooted and tried again with the same result.

There's no proxy settings, but is there no proxy? Mobile devices do suffer from this penomena when it's forgotten to be put back on or off.

Ah, if did the re-boot of computer, the next steps will in no particular order be to re-start any modems or routers or something, check any firewalls, check if correct proxy-settings...

Hmm, in theory ping and tracert could be an idea, but it doesn't look like www.worldcommunitygrid.org answers on either of these so...
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applause Re: Communication deferred for 24h

Hi team - here's a thing for you.
I had been using a mobile phone internet connection through an AT&T client (been working for months - maybe even years). I closed the mobile connection and connected the laptop to my home ADSL router, and then asked for a WCG project update - a master scheduler file was downloaded and then came a stream of WUs, and all is working just fine.
WOW - what now? Do I dare go back to the mobile connection - Well, I have to no later than tomorrow morning.
Pleae let me know if you want to do any futher testing, and many thanks for your willingness to get involved - you're a great team to have on my side.
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Re: Communication deferred for 24h

RaulBonegio, I'm taking it that problem device Computer ID: 636635 is now working on jobs. If you have to use mobile connection and cant get it to work again, suggest to increase your additional buffer / cache to a size that allows to let it crunch off-line. Then periodically, flip the connection when you're near a regular connection for up / download of a new set of tasks. Not ideal, but how to fix your MPIC is beyond me... the things we do to keep crunching ;>)
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biggrin Re: Communication deferred for 24h

Thanks Sekerob, I'll keep your recommendation up my sleeve. I have already cut back to the mobile connection, and all is working well (and one new WU has been downloaded), but your thinking is sound.
Once again, many thanks - now I can crunch some more.
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