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Sekerob
Ace Cruncher Joined: Jul 24, 2005 Post Count: 20043 Status: Offline |
Anyone who is experiencing this issue with CPID, please choose which member account you want to have associated with the other BOINC projects. Change the email address of your other accounts and send us an email to the support email address (support@worldcommunitygrid.org). Let us know which accounts you want the CPID changed and we will change the CPID for those other accounts (make sure to mention that you want the email directed to Kevin Reed). This should resolve your issue. Kevin, do we take this as that the export will consolidate all BOINC scores into one total so it will also show as one at BOINCstats specifically? Just to confirm what the effect is of you manually matching the CPIDs in multiple accounts. thanks
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knreed
Former World Community Grid Tech Joined: Nov 8, 2004 Post Count: 4504 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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We will manually change the CPID of the not-desired account to be different from the desired account. This will allow Willy to be able to locate the proper account for matching up with other accounts. Since the email address would have been changed (based on the first part of my request) they will not re-sync.
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Former Member
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But you lose your Credits from the Account in the combined stats :-(
A merge option have a second nice effect, more Badges :-) Have you so many tables that a merge is so difficult to write? If you need a programmer I could help! |
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Sekerob
Ace Cruncher Joined: Jul 24, 2005 Post Count: 20043 Status: Offline |
There was one piece here I had not seen in the test with linking 2 active accounts through the same email. Whilst initially, the CPID in the 2 WCG accounts were different, after revisiting again yesterday, the 2 showed the common, speak oldest identical CPID.
----------------------------------------Anyway for now, if you don't want it changed, leave it as is. Account merging been asked for more than a few times. Is this possible at 'standard' BOINC projects that don't have the UD code legacy? How would joining there be possible with unique email dictate, and the email address the base of registration and maintaining an account? Is it an admin request and how does one ascertain that accounts belong to the same person? Something to be done with great caution.
WCG
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Saenger
Advanced Cruncher Germany Joined: Dec 28, 2005 Post Count: 68 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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It is somehow possible, and is regularely done, @Seti, to merge new accounts with old, classic ones. Don't ask me how it's done, I'm no programmer and don't even crunch Seti since quite some time.
----------------------------------------Otherwise it's not necessary, as such situations can't really occur because of the requirement of just one account per email, even regardless of the use of upper or lower case. If someone creates a new account with a different email I don't know whether it's possible to merge them, it's definitely not possible without manual intervention by the admin and thus definitely not encouraged ;) If you use BAM! you can even keep track of old projects that you crunched while using BAM! if you change address and can't do so on the vanished ones. The situation here is something nobody could expect, it's something nobody in the BOINC-world would have thought could happen to him/her. The least that should happen is a clear warning of this if somebody tries to do such thing as to create a split account, most probably unaware of a) the consequences and b) the mere possibility of it. In the widest definition of "harm" (as no real harm is done here) the "harm" was inflicted on an unsuspecting and unable-to-suspect-it user by a non-standard setup here @WCG by actions of the project team. I expect a solution by the project team to get this straightened out. |
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Sekerob
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"I Expect" tones do not go down well, anywhere.
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Saenger
Advanced Cruncher Germany Joined: Dec 28, 2005 Post Count: 68 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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"I Expect" tones do not go down well, anywhere. I'm no native speaker, in German I would have said "erwarte". They have created this, they should do something to solve it. |
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Sekerob
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Same thing, denn Deutsch sprechen wir auch! Erwarte is still demanding in the line context.
----------------------------------------Now please, you spilled your gall, let it go.
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Ingleside
Veteran Cruncher Norway Joined: Nov 19, 2005 Post Count: 974 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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Account merging been asked for more than a few times. Is this possible at 'standard' BOINC projects that don't have the UD code legacy? How would joining there be possible with unique email dictate, and the email address the base of registration and maintaining an account? Is it an admin request and how does one ascertain that accounts belong to the same person? Something to be done with great caution. I'm not aware of any BOINC-projects that let users merge accounts, it's not part of the standard setup atleast... The "linking" of accounts in SETI@home is different. For one thing, in theory all SETI@home "classic"-users should just continue using their existing accounts, by using the same email-address. But for various reasons there's many "dead" email-addresses, so there's also possible to "link" to an old account with another email-address, but not sure if you'll still need to supply some info from user_info.sah or not... (haven't looked on this for some years...) There's also instances users created a new SETI/BOINC-account, and later wanted to link to their "old" account. Either due to didn't know it was possible, or, any users joining SETI@home after the initial import and till re-imported much later, didn't have any SETI/BOINC-account without creating one. In all cases, the only thing you get by "linking" to an old SETI@home-"classic"-account is: 1; The original signup-date. (not always correct...) 2; A couple lines showing under your info that shows something like "Did NNN wu's, and ran for YYY hours". Since #wu isn't added to your "credits", even if you somehow did manage to grab someone else's account, you'll still need to start at zero under SETI@Home/BOINC. Oh, and you can only link one SETI/BOINC-account to one "classic"-account, you can't link multiple accounts. ![]() "I make so many mistakes. But then just think of all the mistakes I don't make, although I might." |
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Former Member
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Account merging been asked for more than a few times. Is this possible at 'standard' BOINC projects that don't have the UD code legacy? How would joining there be possible with unique email dictate, and the email address the base of registration and maintaining an account? Is it an admin request and how does one ascertain that accounts belong to the same person? Something to be done with great caution. Hi, Agree with you on being cautious about account merging. Also, as mentioned before, the new projects did not have a UD legacy and therefore started afresh by allowing only 1 account per email id. This prevented duplication of CPIDs for 2 or more accounts and therefore, the new projects did not have to 'merge user accounts'. The problem has cropped up because WCG uses the 'username' as a unique account identifier while the new BOINC projects use the 'email id' (or a CPID generated from the email id). However, I have a couple of suggestions that might help in this regard: 1. WCG can perhaps prevent any future account creations with existing email ids, e.g. when a user tries to register a new account with an email id that has already been used to register another account, then he can be guided to the old account or requested to give a new email id. At present the system checks for an existing username, thereby preventing duplicate usernames. This can perhaps be extended to check for existing email ids also. This step will will avoid problems for future users who are more familiar with the BOINC protocols (as compared to UD), and will also prevent accidental creation of 2 or more accounts (as happened with me 3 months ago ).2. Existing user accounts can gradually be merged together based on multiple criteria. Same email id and CPID being the primary criteria other criteria can also be used to verify the genuineness of the request, e.g. a) hosts attached to the different accounts (whether they are similar and/ or overlapping) b) account opening date c) confirmation emails sent to the original email ids used to register the multiple accounts being merged d) ensuring requests for merger independently from all the usernames that are to be merged i.e. by logging into each account separately, etc. I am sure that the second suggestion is difficult to implement and can happen only in slow increments. However, even though I am no programmer, I believe the first suggestion should be easier to implement. Thanks, Suneet |
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