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Yesterday A Darling announced the UK would be cutting Carbon Emissions by 34% by 2020!
How? By Carbon Capture of course! No investment in low Carbon Emission Vehicles. No investment in Carbon Friendly Computing. No investment in easy-to-install Existing Solar Energy Products. Any investment into promising Solar Research or its Development will actually come via the European Investment Bank, not the UK. Investment in Off-Shore Wind. Yes, into Extremely difficult to get to locations, were helicopters crash, and the Weather is so bad that most of the time you can’t actually work on the uneconomical eye sore project. Investment in Chimneys! Off course this idea is backed by handing in worthless 10 year old cars and buying |
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That's what I said! (In the greenies thread.)
I disagree about off-shore wind, though. The UK is too small and densely populated to meet its energy needs from on-shore wind. Off-shore will help a lot. But the overall CCS myth message was most depressing. Basically, the budget said "Carbon loopholes! Get them while they're big enough to drive a motorway through!" |
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What is wrong with a small wind turbine on the top of a house roof alongside a solar panel?
Wind turbines dont have to be big or high to generate power. There are also wind tubes with the blades and turbine hidden inside - basically they look like chimneys from an oil burner. They can be fixed to the side of a chimney, a wall, post, or even a tree! Why have wind farms hundreds of miles from where you need the energy, when you can just plug them in at home? |
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They just don't generate enough energy. We could use those too, of course.
But on their own, they don't cut it. Then we conclude: if we covered the windiest 10% of the country with windmills (delivering 2W/m ), we would be able to generate 20 kWh/d per person, which is half of the power used by driving an average fossil-fuel car 50 km per day. Have a look at some numbers yourself: http://www.withouthotair.com/ |
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Yesterday A Darling announced the UK would be cutting Carbon Emissions by 34% by 2020! How? By Carbon Capture of course! I heard on the news today that the approval of 3 Coal burning power plants have been approved on the caveat that the CO2 can be buried underground. I do however wonder how much of this CO2 will be used to pump into the remaining oil wells to push it to the top. See the FT article here. Rob |
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Another stupid idea.
Pumping Gas under the sea! Its a bit like sweeping dust under the carpet. The idea is identical to all the other policies. We will spend now and you will pay later. Stealth taxes are bad enough, but Labour is taxing the unborn generations. Surely this is some form of financial infanticide. I see that the coal plants will only have to use limited Carbon Collection facilities! No doubt these devices will be fitted to the furnaces that are used the least. |
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Does anyone have any links to research on how long the CO2 buried stays buried or when it will pop-up back up? People like to say things like they're eternal but I'm curious as to the physics and chemistry of the situation.
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Sekerob
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Well Oil and Gas stores were mainly formed in the... Carboniferous, lasting about 60 million years and ending ~300 million years ago... long enough? Some ltd minded still think Earth will reabsorb all added CO2 in no time if we stop fossil fuel burning. Well give it a few millennia or longer, the latter probably a way too short period.
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In other words no research links huh? I'm assuming the companies aren't compressing plants with massive heat and pressure creating oil/coal.
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Hi
Carbon capture and storage (CCS) is certainly a controversial subject. There are many factors at play, and also many questions left yet unanswered concerning the use of this technique. However, it is important to bring this subject up more often. To the best of my knowledge, there is still a lot to be learned about the whole issue of CCS, but countries such as Canada, Norway and Algeria are taking steps to test the feasibility of CCS. Furthermore, all the recent clean energy proposals consider this as an option. Nonetheless, almost every study published details the fact that the general public is not aware of this technique. However, the information is available. In fact, the IPCC (Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change) released a detailed report of CCS in 2005. It is available at: http://www.ipcc.ch/ipccreports/srccs.htm There have also been other ideas floating around concerning storing CO2 in deep sea-sediments. Take a look at the following publication if you want to read a bit more about it. http://www.pnas.org/cgi/gca?gca=0605318103v1&...et+All+Checked+Abstract(s) Hope this helps you all. Roberto CEP Team |
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