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Dmitrio
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... Grid computing is a really interesting application. The benefit for research is real. Member donating is computer resource for free earns virtue but virtue does not help you to pay drug. My question seems to create trouble: it's just a dialogue about members ,WCG and pharamcy industry interests. For now all the money that was spend to find the cure did not return in total victory over the illness. But maybe our virtue will? Dmitrio  |
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Former Member
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The similar threads on this topic all contain 'public domain' in them. WCG requires that the research results from a project be released into the public domain. This is explained in the sample contract in Request for Proposal at http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/projects_showcase/viewSubmitAProposal.do
The bargain is simple. We supply the use of our computers for free. In return, the results obtained are freely released into the public domain. The knowledge is simply part of the common heritage of mankind. But this has no direct impact on any patents, trade secrets, copyrights or other intellectual property developed by anyone that uses this public knowledge. On the other hand, anybody else can also use this knowledge without infringement, so it does serve to limit what can be claimed as private intellectual property. Lawrence |
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mikaok
Senior Cruncher Finland Joined: Aug 8, 2006 Post Count: 489 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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Generally speaking, doing science is often very expensive. For example, you can imagine how much would it cost to loan a supercomputer for one year. So scientist have to put much effort to get the funding for their research. If the subject of the project isn't glamorous at the time, the project probably can't get its funding.
----------------------------------------There would be much more research if there was more resources. But when there is some previous research, it is cheaper and easier to do new research. That is why I *crunch* *crunch*
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Former Member
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... Grid computing is a really interesting application. The benefit for research is real. Member donating is computer resource for free earns virtue but virtue does not help you to pay drug. My question seems to create trouble: it's just a dialogue about members ,WCG and pharamcy industry interests. For now all the money that was spend to find the cure did not return in total victory over the illness. But maybe our virtue will? Dmitrio virtue, hope and technology |
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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
The similar threads on this topic all contain 'public domain' in them. WCG requires that the research results from a project be released into the public domain. This is explained in the sample contract in Request for Proposal at http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/projects_showcase/viewSubmitAProposal.do The bargain is simple. We supply the use of our computers for free. In return, the results obtained are freely released into the public domain. The knowledge is simply part of the common heritage of mankind. But this has no direct impact on any patents, trade secrets, copyrights or other intellectual property developed by anyone that uses this public knowledge. On the other hand, anybody else can also use this knowledge without infringement, so it does serve to limit what can be claimed as private intellectual property. Lawrence No secret trade, noone ask about it. Thanks for your explanation. |
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Generally speaking, doing science is often very expensive. For example, you can imagine how much would it cost to loan a supercomputer for one year. So scientist have to put much effort to get the funding for their research. If the subject of the project isn't glamorous at the time, the project probably can't get its funding. There would be much more research if there was more resources. But when there is some previous research, it is cheaper and easier to do new research. That is why I *crunch* *crunch* A real interesting applicaton. |
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Richard Mitnick
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My understanding is that the cost of running a computer is about the same as a 150 watt light bulb.
----------------------------------------Participation in distributed computing is a privilege, allowing the participant to give back to society for what he/she has received. You are sitting there with some kind of decent computer(s), you should be thankful and be glad you have this opportunity. >>RSM |
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My understanding is that the cost of running a computer is about the same as a 150 watt light bulb. Participation in distributed computing is a privilege, allowing the participant to give back to society for what he/she has received. You are sitting there with some kind of decent computer(s), you should be thankful and be glad you have this opportunity. >>RSM I maybe misunderstand your opinion, but when you pay your electricity, you pay back society (electricity provider). Participating in distributed computing is paying back society a little bit more. I do not fight against grid computing, I'm glad about this application. |
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mikaok
Senior Cruncher Finland Joined: Aug 8, 2006 Post Count: 489 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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My understanding is that the cost of running a computer is about the same as a 150 watt light bulb. If you keep your computer on for few hours a day, there is not much difference in your electric bill, if its processor is running 100% or 0% that time. I presume a laptop consumes about 65W in idle and let say 70W in burn. My dual core desktop consumes about 100W in idle and 120W in burn. So crunching probably costs me about two take away coffees in a year 
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My understanding is that the cost of running a computer is about the same as a 150 watt light bulb. If you keep your computer on for few hours a day, there is not much difference in your electric bill, if its processor is running 100% or 0% that time. I presume a laptop consumes about 65W in idle and let say 70W in burn. My dual core desktop consumes about 100W in idle and 120W in burn. So crunching probably costs me about two take away coffees in a year I have a computer for games, and it become really hot when playing (using all ressources), and not when working. I thought that there was a distance in electricity consuming between gaming (or WCG) and working. It's 400 W electricity power supply, and computer is on by night too. I agree noone ask me to do it by night except interests in research discoveries and applications. |
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