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Crystal Pellet
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Why has my WU a shorter report deadline?

Among the initial 19 replications was one error (nr 17) and I got the replication of that WU (now nr 19). All the other WU's have a normal deadline of 12 days. But my resend WU of that error from someone else has got a report deadline from 2 days and about 10 hours.

Project Name: Nutritious Rice for the World
Created: 09/09/2008 20:55:08
Name: R00112_c06ed72f1012f1342051ee93b4b4ac02_03_001
Minimum Quorum: 10
Initial Replication: 19

R00112_ c06ed72f1012f1342051ee93b4b4ac02_ 03_ 001_ 13-- In Progress 09/10/2008 02:45:57 09/22/2008 02:45:57 0.00 0.0 / 0.0
R00112_ c06ed72f1012f1342051ee93b4b4ac02_ 03_ 001_ 7-- In Progress 09/10/2008 02:48:36 09/22/2008 02:48:36 0.00 0.0 / 0.0
R00112_ c06ed72f1012f1342051ee93b4b4ac02_ 03_ 001_ 17-- Error 09/10/2008 02:50:26 09/10/2008 07:20:54 0.00 0.0 / 0.0
R00112_ c06ed72f1012f1342051ee93b4b4ac02_ 03_ 001_ 1-- Pending Validation 09/10/2008 02:50:30 09/10/2008 15:55:32 8.01 71.7 / 0.0
R00112_ c06ed72f1012f1342051ee93b4b4ac02_ 03_ 001_ 9-- In Progress 09/10/2008 03:03:38 09/22/2008 03:03:38 0.00 0.0 / 0.0
R00112_ c06ed72f1012f1342051ee93b4b4ac02_ 03_ 001_ 18-- In Progress 09/10/2008 03:06:06 09/22/2008 03:06:06 0.00 0.0 / 0.0
R00112_ c06ed72f1012f1342051ee93b4b4ac02_ 03_ 001_ 10-- In Progress 09/10/2008 03:06:39 09/22/2008 03:06:39 0.00 0.0 / 0.0
R00112_ c06ed72f1012f1342051ee93b4b4ac02_ 03_ 001_ 15-- In Progress 09/10/2008 03:09:27 09/22/2008 03:09:27 0.00 0.0 / 0.0
R00112_ c06ed72f1012f1342051ee93b4b4ac02_ 03_ 001_ 11-- Pending Validation 09/10/2008 03:11:56 09/10/2008 18:28:55 8.01 101.4 / 0.0
R00112_ c06ed72f1012f1342051ee93b4b4ac02_ 03_ 001_ 6-- In Progress 09/10/2008 03:13:10 09/22/2008 03:13:10 0.00 0.0 / 0.0
R00112_ c06ed72f1012f1342051ee93b4b4ac02_ 03_ 001_ 16-- Pending Validation 09/10/2008 03:14:14 09/10/2008 19:15:43 8.05 36.4 / 0.0
R00112_ c06ed72f1012f1342051ee93b4b4ac02_ 03_ 001_ 3-- In Progress 09/10/2008 03:14:34 09/22/2008 03:14:34 0.00 0.0 / 0.0
R00112_ c06ed72f1012f1342051ee93b4b4ac02_ 03_ 001_ 8-- In Progress 09/10/2008 03:14:51 09/22/2008 03:14:51 0.00 0.0 / 0.0
R00112_ c06ed72f1012f1342051ee93b4b4ac02_ 03_ 001_ 2-- In Progress 09/10/2008 03:15:06 09/22/2008 03:15:06 0.00 0.0 / 0.0
R00112_ c06ed72f1012f1342051ee93b4b4ac02_ 03_ 001_ 0-- In Progress 09/10/2008 03:23:15 09/22/2008 03:23:15 0.00 0.0 / 0.0
R00112_ c06ed72f1012f1342051ee93b4b4ac02_ 03_ 001_ 4-- In Progress 09/10/2008 03:29:37 09/22/2008 03:29:37 0.00 0.0 / 0.0
R00112_ c06ed72f1012f1342051ee93b4b4ac02_ 03_ 001_ 5-- In Progress 09/10/2008 03:50:47 09/22/2008 03:50:47 0.00 0.0 / 0.0
R00112_ c06ed72f1012f1342051ee93b4b4ac02_ 03_ 001_ 14-- In Progress 09/10/2008 03:52:42 09/22/2008 03:52:42 0.00 0.0 / 0.0
R00112_ c06ed72f1012f1342051ee93b4b4ac02_ 03_ 001_ 12-- In Progress 09/10/2008 04:05:06 09/22/2008 04:05:06 0.00 0.0 / 0.0
R00112_ c06ed72f1012f1342051ee93b4b4ac02_ 03_ 001_ 19-- In Progress 09/10/2008 07:39:29 09/12/2008 17:15:29 0.00 0.0 / 0.0

Is this normal policy?

Regards.
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Sekerob
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Re: Why has my WU a shorter report deadline?

Plz see Deadline FAQ:

http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/forums/wcg/viewthread?thread=17160

2 days 10 hours seems to me in alignment with the policy in effect.

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Re: Why has my WU a shorter report deadline?

Crystal Pellet,
Although you do not say it explicitly I think that you do not find normal, or at least you find it strange that a rush job has to be returned several days before the normal jobs of the same WU. Everybody agrees, including the tech people. However, the way it has been designed the routine which computes the deadline of rush jobs is not able to know the normal deadlines at a reasonable cost for database accesses. So until this part of the code can ever be redesigned to make it easier and/or simpler this strange situation will not change.

Anyway, beside the apparently unfair aspect of this situation, this is not a big problem since devices which get these rush jobs are returning all jobs very fast, so they don't have problems with the deadlines of possibly interrupted jobs.

Cheers. Jean.
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Re: Why has my WU a shorter report deadline?

Hello Sekerob and Jean,

So it's clearly in the design of the software.
Jean exactly feels: I was not worrying, but just wondering why a rush job should return (much) quicker than the original deadline.
Talking about redesign: If you ever change the software in this part, perhaps it is a good idea to put the deadline in seconds in the WU-name, so when an error returns you can extract the original deadline without accessing the DB.

Just another question concerning Sekerob FAQ:

"The most recent 15 or so results checked must have been determined to be valid."

This 15 results should they be all from the same WCG-project for what the rush WU is needed or all WCG-projects together?

Both thanks for the answers (in advance). You CA's are doing a great job. blushing
For the answer on this last question I will not thank again, because I don't want to increase the number of posts.
I don't need to be an 'Advanced Cruncher' very soon smile
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Re: Why has my WU a shorter report deadline?

CP, it's 15 overall. Have amended FAQ to read:

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  • The most recent 15 or so results checked, overall, must have been determined to be valid."

    Also added a footnote for those that wonder about the deadlines not matching the original batch due date. I had one rush job and did not notice until this morning that BBG has autobooted my machine, the wifi not starting until I log in (elected safety). Had I not looked, would the repair job have been late too. sad

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