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WilhelmGGW
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Linux SuperFast on some molecules?

I have Linux-Ubuntu running on one machine, and Windows XP on a couple more. Even after I factor in the basic processor difference, I find that the Ubuntu machine is processing the Cancer work units far faster than expected. Much faster than my XP machines of comparable speed. Much faster than work units of other projects. It's like Cancer-on-Ubuntu hits a special sweet spot and really whizzes through the assigned tasks. And all the results validate just fine. Is this behavior normal?
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Re: Linux SuperFast on some molecules?

it's really image analysis rather than a program like Dengue or FightAIDS,which might be the basic difference. Not recollecting an observation like that before, but not unreasonable.

note that if i look at the project graphs (in my sig), that all but FAAH have dropped run time.... a knreed joystick event or members fleeing the long monsters seeking refuge to look good in the 200 millionth result challenge?
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Re: Linux SuperFast on some molecules?

WilhelmGGW,
If your Ubuntu is an Ubuntu 64 and your XPs XP32 this is normal and I mentioned it several times in other threads. I have both running alternatively in the same Q6600 quad. As expected the flops benchmark is the same in both cases but the integer one is 50 % higher in the 64-bit mode than in the 32-bit mode.

And probably the HCC WUs have much more integer computation than WUs of other projects. In the above quad a HCC WU needs an average 3.75 hours under XP32 and little less than 3.0 hours under Ubuntu 64.

If your machines are all running in the same mode, either 64 or 32 then that could be really Linux which makes the difference, unless it is the processors' architectures?

Cheers. Jean.
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Re: Linux SuperFast on some molecules?

Linux 64 can assume that any CPU it runs on has all the modern instruction sets. So the libraries are written in much faster code which makes a small but noticeable difference. If the standard Linux or Windows 32 bit libraries could make the same assumption, they would also be measurably faster. There are several effects at work, but they combine to make Linux 64 a much faster system.

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Re: Linux SuperFast on some molecules?

Aside from how much faster my Ubuntu machine is on pretty much everything, my particular observation with respect to HCC is this:

When BOINC downloads a work unit, it gives an estimate of how much run time it will take to process it. On my web page of validated results, I have a "final statement" of how long the unit actually took. (Or at least I think that's what I'm getting there.)

I've compared these two numbers for lots of work units on all my computers. My Linux machine is the fastest I have. That is, it processes all units significantly faster than similar units on my other computers, and the final time for each work unit is significantly shorter than the initial estimate.

But the real standout is in processing HCC work units. With them, the actual run time is far and away faster than with other projects. That's why I asked this question.
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Re: Linux SuperFast on some molecules?

You have raised an interesting idea. Would you be kind enough to post the specs of the XP and Linux system. It would interesting to compare and see if the results could be duplicated elsewhere. TIA.

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Re: Linux SuperFast on some molecules?

Follow-up question:
Does the WCG-host interface pick up on performance anomalies like the one I've reported here, so that it feeds each computer installation more of the project work units that run on it most efficiently?

That is, would your analysis pick up on my Ubuntu host performing extraordinarily on HCC, and send it more of units than it would, say, to my XP machines?
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Re: Linux SuperFast on some molecules?

Just posted an excerpt of a knreed post in the Start Here FAQ's on shaping work for hosts according their ability, but sending any particular project to those doing it most efficient is not one of those features. From a project management it would be ideal, but will all appreciate when running an All Project profile and WilhelmGGW sucking away the few spare HCC jobs from the remaining pool that are left over after the "single project" preference crunchers have taken most?
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