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Richard Mitnick
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WCG crunchers and BOINC projects

I have read and heard that the vast majority of WCG participants do not work on any BOINC projects. I am wondering if this is true, and, if so, why?

I know that some resent the demise of the UD agent. I also know that compared to WCG, BOINC is a bit of the Wild West.

But the variety of projects, the subjects dealt with at BOINC is simply stunning, everything from Mathematics, SETI, Cosmology and the LHC to Chemtherapy, protein folding and Malaria, even the game of Chess.

I am just curious.

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Re: WCG crunchers and BOINC projects

I think it is probably true, and if you take the time to read or re-read WCG's Home Page you will find most of the reasons why those participants do so (I am one of those WCG-only crunchers).

- Projects benefiting humanity
- Secure software and operations.

You may add that they already find a choice of projects in WCG, none of them being just for the fun or mere curiosity. And this without adding the extra level of complexity that crunching for several very different DC sites puts on Boinc's operation.

Also, if the Home Page is not enough you may click on "Partners" in "Who we are" and you will be able to review the 388 WCG partners who would probably never have installed Distributed Computing in their organization if it had not the level of security that IBM's sponsorship and operations guarantee. There are so many, even within IBM customers, who do not take this decision because they are still afraid of potential security problems!

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Re: WCG crunchers and BOINC projects

I have read and heard that the vast majority of WCG participants do not work on any BOINC projects.


I think it is true to say the ALL WCG participants work on a Boinc project - and the project is - WCG! wink
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Re: WCG crunchers and BOINC projects

I do fully agree with you. We are working on a Bionic Project called World Community Grid and it's a very important project. No games to play , just peoples lives to save!
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Re: WCG crunchers and BOINC projects

Hello mitrichr.

Where exactly have you "read and heard. . . "?

I am of the view, judging from how I look at myself (and what made me join as contributing compute power to WCG's projects), that projects on WCG are "serious" or of "the here and the now practical use" projects, or projects that hold the potential to change the state or course of things, like how the course of warfare was changed by the discovery of-, and the eventual actual implementation of-, the fusion of atoms in an atomic bomb.

So, no application of DC for say, chess (as what they have in BOINC) here at WCG. Or none of those projects that, in my view borders on the science fiction side: Search for E.T Intelligence. Not that those projects don't have utility. They may well have some, but it misses that ingredient that separates work from play, in a manner of speaking. Or genius from greatness.

On the flip side, things can get boring here at WCG. But, with everyone busy working on that thing that may well change the course of life (and wouldn't a cure for cancer, for example, be that?), being a bore and/or crunching a boring work unit may not be that bad at all...

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This one, I bet will change the DC landscape: the nVidia GTX and Tesla C GPUs. With CUDA these GPU can do math like the CPU and do it faster than a CPU.

See: "The end of the CPU"
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/nvidia-cuda-gpu,1954.html
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Re: WCG crunchers and BOINC projects

....So, no application of DC for say, chess (as what they have in BOINC) here at WCG.....


....but WCG IS Boinc! laughing
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