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Former Member
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Propose that WCG consider to remove W98 and ME from the System Requirements list for at least HCC & AC@H. Well I'm running Win98 on an old machine overclocked to 3.2 Ghz and it is doing nothing but HCC at the moment. It is doing fine and completes a few in a day without errors. You been listening to Al Gore again Sek ?  BTW, I have a very good reason (Which I wont go into here) for keeping at least one Win98 machine still going. |
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Sekerob
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Does W98 understand dual core or are you dual booting into something else afterwards?
----------------------------------------Yes it's all time 829 thus 5.64*829 gives your 4,673 or the worldly number of 32,711 WCG points per day coming from this platform. How many are really active I don't know. What I'd like to prevent is that people still running UD migrating to BOINC, the newest version and get issues. Think somewhere a 5.8 release was the last to have received a seal of approval. Worth testing, though really BOINC itself does nothing, but what if the BOINC wrapper is not solid for this platform? And i do think the OS has a some role in the events.... how else do you explain that my quad on Vista does absolutely brilliant and in 24% of the cases even gets major extra credit due match up with other crunchers that did not become full outliers. This is running 4 of these jobs concurrently in service install. (now a few will suspect me of not wanting the 'issue' fixed) If the page faulting cant be solved, the points will come to the fore. If points are elevated to compensate, it will influence the 'all project' decision. Strikes me as that Greek knot problem. Let's just see what the WCG technicians and programmers come up with and let this thread further be what Adywebb intended it to be. (shame on me for the sidetracking) ttyl EDIT: corrected some spelling.
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Former Member
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Does W98 understand dual core or are you dual booting into something else afterwards? No, Win98 cant do dual core Sek. This is an old single core machine, with the max memory that 98 can handle and the swap file on the D: drive. [Edit] I do understand most of your points Sek. The Al Gore thing was a joke.  [/Edit][Edit 1 times, last edit by Former Member at Feb 1, 2008 2:56:03 PM] |
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courine
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This problem goes past win98. Click here.
----------------------------------------The lesson I learned, "Don't mix old code with new hardware. The sting isn't worth the time wasted for trying." Meaning, it is better to upgrade at some expence, than trying to save a buck and use the old code.     [Edit 1 times, last edit by courine at Feb 1, 2008 7:20:37 PM] |
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And i do think the OS has a some role in the events.... how else do you explain that my quad on Vista does absolutely brilliant and in 24% of the cases even gets major extra credit due match up with other crunchers that did not become full outliers. This is running 4 of these jobs concurrently in service install. Interesting for you to say this, as others with Vista have reported similar, so it does seem the OS may be a factor here. What are the page fault #'s like on your quad with Vista running HCC Sek? [Edit 1 times, last edit by Former Member at Feb 1, 2008 7:35:59 PM] |
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This problem goes past win98. Click here. The lesson I learned, "Don't mix old code with new hardware. The sting isn't worth the time wasted for trying." Meaning, it is better to upgrade at some expence, than trying to save a buck and use the old code. This is'nt new hardware Courine and I am not trying to save a buck. I built this machine years ago and as I said above, I have to keep at least one Win98 machine running. I have other OS's too. This works a treat with the version of BOINC I am using. |
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courine
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Oh sorry,
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Sekerob
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And i do think the OS has a some role in the events.... how else do you explain that my quad on Vista does absolutely brilliant and in 24% of the cases even gets major extra credit due match up with other crunchers that did not become full outliers. This is running 4 of these jobs concurrently in service install. Interesting for you to say this, as others with Vista have reported similar, so it does seem the OS may be a factor here. What are the page fault #'s like on your quad with Vista running HCC Sek?
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Hi Guys, I'm using a brand new PC with a duel core processor and running BOINC version 5.10.30 with WinXP 64bit and HCC is having a problem running smoothly.
I first noticed the 'time to completion' kept jumping back around 10 seconds at a time then waiting and jumping forward again. So I ran the other core on SETI which runs smoothly, in fact it skips a second here and there but without a doubt it's running faster than HCC. Now my CPU is overclocked by 100% but very stable so I'm not sure if that will have any effect on it but, if I can be of any assistance to you as a tester just email me or just send some work to me, I've already checked the beta tester box. I'm a noob so sorry if your way ahead of me here because I haven't read all the posts but if you need a tester I'm willing to help. Best Wishes, Dave.  |
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Hi Computer Dave @SG1-UK.
Time to completion doesn't indicate anything about how "fast" a work unit or project is going. Changes in time to completion are merely an indication of the accuracy of the original time estimate. HCC is non-deterministic, so you may see non-linear time. Disconcerting, isn't it? Overclocked by 100%? You keep your computer submerged in liquid nitrogen? |
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