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Idea - Dry Ice

RipCat got me to thinking. thinking A really dangerous activity - if anyone smells burnt rubber thats me.

Does anyone know if dry ice is conductive? confused May be I'll just set a 3lb block inside my case and put sheet packing styrofoam around the case and make sure all incoming air blows across the dry ice block to chill the air and remove the moisture. raised eyebrow Disk drives are a problem they need to come out if it gets colder than about 20 degrees. worried

I can see it now I'll be on international news "News flash, person asphyxiates himself with Carbon Dioxide Gas cooked off a dry ice block, trying to overclock his PC. This exceedingly dumb idea has resulted in a slew of even dumber law suits to prevent manufacturers from allowing their CPUs to be over clocked. Thus, preventing the thinning of the species from its own stupid individuals and perpetuating the quicker demise of the entire species." tongue

I'd laugh except I can see the law suits happening, not from anything I'd do but someone would see it as a threat to be corrected.

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The thing about dry ice that makes it an efficient solid coolant is not the passive conduction of heat, but the forced intake of heat in the endothermic process of sublimation. As the ice sublimes, (as it must at room temperature) it absorbs heat from the surroundings, and this absorbing is not "take what I get", but "grab what I can". It really is a vicious uptake of heat. If you were to drip water on dry ice, the water would freeze, because heat is "sucked away" from the water for sublimation to occur.

If you put dry ice on metal, the dry ice will definitely cool the metal down by absorbing heat. The rate of heat absorbed depends on how much surface area there is, as well as the latent heat of the dry ice. Drawing air over the dry ice is not as effective, because that air saturated with freshly-sublimed carbon dioxide is warmer than the dry ice itself, but still cooled by it anyway. However, only the air in the immediate atomic area that passes over the dry ice will be well cooled to below zero degrees; air passed over a centimeter away will be rather warmer, and air passed over an inch away mightas well have been normal cool air conditioning. It's all about surface area here. Note that air is an extremely poor conductor, so it will be the limiting factor, not your dry ice.

Note: moisture may condense into tiny droplets or even freeze into minute crystals when it passes over the dry ice. If it settles on the circuits in large amounts, you're asking for trouble tongue though I don't think it will be a matter if you're not in a place with 100% humidity like me.

Besides, I once tried to supercool my processor, and the lowest it would go was 32 degrees. it either refused to go lower, or my thermistor can't record it.

When working with dry ice, always use gloves (the heat "sucking" can freeze your skin off, theoretically, if you touch it long enough), and be in a well ventliated room with windows open. If you feel breathless, or notice a big increase in rate of breathing, scram immediately, because that's the increased carbon dioxide level in your blood that triggers the breathing process to accelerate.
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If you put dry ice on metal, the dry ice will definitely cool the metal down by absorbing heat. The rate of heat absorbed depends on how much surface area there is, as well as the latent heat of the dry ice. Drawing air over the dry ice is not as effective, because that air saturated with freshly-sublimed carbon dioxide is warmer than the dry ice itself, but still cooled by it anyway. However, only the air in the immediate atomic area that passes over the dry ice will be well cooled to below zero degrees; air passed over a centimeter away will be rather warmer, and air passed over an inch away mightas well have been normal cool air conditioning. It's all about surface area here. Note that air is an extremely poor conductor, so it will be the limiting factor, not your dry ice.

Note: moisture may condense into tiny droplets or even freeze into minute crystals when it passes over the dry ice. If it settles on the circuits in large amounts, you're asking for trouble tongue though I don't think it will be a matter if you're not in a place with 100% humidity like me.

That was what I was going to say but then humidity is not 100% here. wink wink
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Perhaps we could miniaturize the good old fridge compressor and run it directly through the heatsink on the cpu. Better yet, insulate the tower and shill the inside to about 4C, you could probably fit a door on the side of the tower and keep a couple beers cold in there.

Off to the patent office,
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You mightas well make a workstation cluster in one of those cold-storage industrial freezer rooms. Of course, if you accidentally shut the door with you inside, the only way you're going to survive is to bunch youself in the middle of stacks of crazily overclocked computers, breathing their warm exhaust.


Or you could try liquid-cooling it with this gadget in the reservior to cool the coolant down:
http://asciimation.co.nz/beer/

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Did you know that liquid sodium, an extremely reactive chemical, is used as a coolant in nuclear power plants?
Now you know.

Please do not try this at home.
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just drill a hole in the side of your freezer for cables and stick your CPU in there.
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Orca, RipCat and RT
Thanks for the encouragment and information.

I believe you guys really do want to see me on the international news !! tongue tongue
I'll be the cross-eyed fat guy with all four paws stuck up in the air. Now watch for me whilst you hold your breath! biggrin No cheating now!

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Give us some pictures of that dry-ice-in-a-puta, will you biggrin
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From CNN.com:

Breaking News......

Cross-eyed fat guy with four paws found frozen to computer work station....details soon! shock

Reporter-in-the-field,
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Yeah, the news broke, alright.
Why can't news be reported whole? As in, a nice, full, story, not "details soon!" and advertisments?.

*Sits at television waiting for "details"* frustrated
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