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I was consdiering...

I was considering running an ad in he lcoal new paper for people to donate new or used systems and part to me. I have ample space in my basement and plenty of networking knowledge in order to make this a reality. The problem I may face is that I am unsure how to promote this through the newspaper in a non-profit fashion. Since "I" myself am not WCG, can I legally do this? And are the people able to 'write-off' their donation?
I have shelf space to comfortably place roughly 100 additional PC in my basement (converted to an office). Cool environment, 10/100/1000 network , firewall, router, switch and internal server - the whole nine yards of a personal playgroud :)
Any suggestions would be great - as I said, while I have the techincal background, the legal-side of this is not my bread and butter and obtaining legal counsel is money that I do not have.
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Re: I was consdiering...

To try to get around any of the legal issues, could you not just get your local paper to write something up about WCG and get them to give the URL to download the agent.

This would save money in people shipping stuff to you and in you running it.

Great idea BTW.
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Sure, I've already thought of that too.
My initial purpose of donations, was to get the systems that people can't use any more - such as slower CPU's, no monitor (once WCG is set up, I can have these systems sit as headless units and monitor them through pcAnywhere - or something of the likes) There wouldn't be any shipping, just local drop offs and pickups.

I also figured that once I get enough systems, I'd have firepower in getting better high-end publicity for the project - such as local TV news spots.
You know "Local Guys does his part for the world..."
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I happen to be an attorney located in the State of Texas, U.S.A. I see no legal problem in running an ad asking for donations of used computers. Since these computers will be donated by their owners to you you will have legal ownership of them thus will naturally have permission to run the Grid software on them. The only problem would be since you are not set up as a tax deductable charity (I am assuming this) the people donating the computers cannot treat their donation as a tax deductable donation. You should make this clear to those individuals who donate their equipment to you. Perhaps you could coordinate your project through a charity or school so as to allow equipment donors to get a tax deduction, but you need to check with them to see what the exact rules and requirements are.
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Just to be extra clear make sure that the donors know that you are not an agent, employee or representative of WCG and that you are not a charity. As long as you do not mislead or deceive you should be ok.
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Just to be on the extra safe side when you take possession of the donated computers get a receipt from the donor containing the donor's name and address, date of transfer and detailed description of the specific donated equipment, such as serial numbers or technical specifications. Keep all of this in a file and a copy of the file in a seperate location for safekeeping.
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Re: I was consdiering...

icmb,

Depending on how old a computer you are willing to run, you may be able to find lots real cheap at secondhand stores, surplus stores, pawnshops, etc. You may want to call ahead and see when they get a new batch in so you can get first crack at the best ones. The charity secondhand stores sometimes get the best selection as companies, schools etc will donate a whole bunch to them all at once.

I got a monitor in mint condition for $5!!!!
Ripcat

P.S. Yard sales may be a prime spot for picking up older computers cheap!
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Some other thoughts: Make sure your electrical wiring meets legal building code requirements for the amount of power your computers are going to consume. You do not want to cause an electrical fire due to overloaded circuits. Also, I have read of cases where a residence consumed an inordinate amount of power which drew the attention of the police. They thought the excessive power use was the result of the use of indoor plant lights to grow pot.
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Re: I was consdiering...

You might want to look into setting yourself up as a "Not for profit Corporation".


If all your doing is crunching for the Grid you definitely wont have to worry about making any money. But you would be able to qualify for tax breaks and write offs. Plus the Corporation designation would limit your persol liabilities.
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Yes, you can set your self up as a charity, see

http://www.irs.gov/charities/charitable/article/0,,id=96099,00.html

The issues associated with this avenue is the cost to you in setting up the non-profit origanization and administrative duties. If you do this you can deduct all of your person expenses from your personal income tax plus a percentage of the cost of your homeowner expenses based porportionally on the space your basement occupies. As for protection from personal libility, incorporating does give protection to your personal assets if your processing activities causes harm to others. Also, all persons donating computer equipment to you can deduct the value of the equipment donated. I am not sure of the value that the IRS allows donors to deduct for their equipment, it depends in part on the bookkeeping the donor used in valuation. I initially just thought you wanted your processing activities to be a very small opperation but if you are more serious about it this is the avenue to follow.
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