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confused Linux, I have one now, but being a Windows type [revisited]

I havent a clue to how to get it going here. I am completely lost. But if I can get this one going, I may have a good chance of getting more from this same people. The server is up and running a website. Its not crouded, so they have said that i can install this for at least the time being.

The problem that I have been pointed to is that too little memory is available to run the progy. There is no GUI, so this may be the problem, I just have no experiance with Linux to know if its just memory (it has 190meg on a k6-2) or is this something else, like the lack of GUI.

The reason why this thread vs adding to all ready Linux threads, is to focus on the Windows to Linux extention, not just the Linux only environment.

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Re: Linux, I have one now, but being a Windows type

Didactylos is the Linux expert, but he isn't on at the moment.
One of the first questions he will probably ask is which version of Linux are you using as the install can vary slightly from one to another.
Also, command line isn't a problem, but it isn't as friendly as using a gui.
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Re: Linux, I have one now, but being a Windows type

The problem that I have been pointed to is that too little memory is available to run the progy.
Some with as small as 168Mb have done this successfully. (Windows, probably. Linux, I dunno)See whether you have a way to add more virtual memory while you wait for Didactylos to come along. It will probably take a bunch, compared to physical. Goose it up by 400Mb-500Mb of disk and see what happens.
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Re: Linux, I have one now, but being a Windows type

The BOINC Command Tool manual for GUI less operations has just been corrected for a critical typo. It works now entirely according the RTFM principle (with disclaimer).

Where you see boinc_cmd for windows it's boinccmd so learned from practicing a little. The commands are case sensitive on both windows and Linux, so make sure to type all in small.
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biggrin Re: Linux, I have one now, but being a Windows type

im getting system data for interview, but will be looking at handbook in the mean time.

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Re: Linux, I have one now, but being a Windows type

Okay, how did I end up a Linux expert? I'm a Windows expert, always have been. Over at UF I'm an oddity - a Microsoft apologist in a sea of free software fundamentalists.... (I'm exaggerating; I'm an OSS fan, and I'm well aware of Microsoft's many shortcomings. But I still develop primarily under Windows.)

Admittedly, I know stuff about Linux and I have a few distros ready to run under Microsoft Virtual PC. But when the going gets hairy I rely on my teammates.

Mind you, knowing BOINC inside out helps.

I've forgotten what the question was.

Courine, have you had a go at installing it yet? Let me know what distro you use and I'll try and guide you through it. Do you have root on this machine, or is someone else responsible for it?
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Re: Linux, I have one now, but being a Windows type

FWIW, I recently figure out how to get BOINC running under Linux.

I went through the whole command line thing and it was too much for me (I'd have to give it a shot again now that I'm more comfortable with CLI).

I'm not sure if this is the "Right" way, but it works.

What I did in the end was follow the guide on the Unofficial BOINC Wiki .

I stuck the installer in /home because at the time I didn't understand the whole /usr thing.

When I go to start BOINC, I first double click on boinc and then double click on boincmgr. This will start the daemon and then the manager. You can just start the manager (as it will launch the daemon) but a side effect of this is I couldn't close the manager without stopping the daemon. Or maybe I was just doing something wrong :)

I'm now happily crunching Rosetta and Cosmo on my laptop (it dual boots with Vista).

YMMV of course. And this is on Ubuntu.

Good luck!
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Re: Linux, I have one now, but being a Windows type

If it works, don't knock it. And I always recommend using BOINC Manager where possible.

However, for Ubuntu there is a Synaptic package that sets things up more securely for you, and it means you don't have to remember to start the client manually.

No need to change anything if you're happy the way you are.
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Re: Linux, I have one now, but being a Windows type

I have Boinc installed on two different SuSE Linux machines. When I installed on the first machine, I followed the directions which installed Boinc in the /usr directory and only ran the client when the manager was open. On the second machine, I followed a different set of instructions, which I can't locate at the moment, for creating a boinc userid, installing in the /home/boinc directory, and provided a script to run boinc as a service. I had to tweak the script to handle recovery after a machine crash, but it works good for me now.
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Re: Linux, I have one now, but being a Windows type

If it works, don't knock it. And I always recommend using BOINC Manager where possible.

However, for Ubuntu there is a Synaptic package that sets things up more securely for you, and it means you don't have to remember to start the client manually.

No need to change anything if you're happy the way you are.



I'd do that, except the package in Synaptic is woefully out of date. I think it was 5.4 when I looked.

I also got the learning experience of getting it to work on my own. But not everyone will be jazzed by that.

There is a run_manager thingie (yeah, I have no idea what it's called) and supposedly double clicking that will start the whole thing (choose "run" in the popup box, not "run in terminal". But my computer has to be difficult. I double click it and the computer sits there looking at me. And so I sit there staring right back at it with a questioning look on my face. Not a lot gets done that way. whistling
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