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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
I noticed BOINC's queue getting smaller and smaller over the past two days. Now it has only the one job, which is in progress. It doesn't seem to be getting new work and there's no logical reason why.
Clicking "update" causes the message window to do this: 7/2/2007 4:30:09 AM|World Community Grid|Sending scheduler request: Requested by user 7/2/2007 4:30:09 AM|World Community Grid|(not requesting new work or reporting completed tasks) 7/2/2007 4:30:14 AM|World Community Grid|Scheduler RPC succeeded [server version 509] 7/2/2007 4:30:14 AM|World Community Grid|Deferring communication for 5 min 3 sec 7/2/2007 4:30:14 AM|World Community Grid|Reason: requested by project Apparently BOINC simply doesn't want to request new work? How do I configure it so that it behaves as it originally did, and stays behaving that way? Why does it not simply let me "set it and forget it" and not screw itself up eventually and require manual intervention, for that matter? I've double checked everything. All projects are checked in My Grid. I've even got "work from other projects if none of WCG's has new work" checked. As far as I am aware the only project listed there that's currently got no new work is HCMD anyway. Since it was originally working, my system meets the minimum requirements. Since I haven't changed any hardware around or filled much more of the HDD it still meets the minimum requirements. If I had made any hardware changes they'd have been upgrades, not downgrades, anyway. BOINC is not suddenly misdetecting any hardware either: 7/2/2007 3:18:27 AM||Processor: 2 AuthenticAMD AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 3800+ [x86 Family 15 Model 35 Stepping 2] [fpu tsc pae nx sse sse2 3dnow mmx] 7/2/2007 3:18:27 AM||Memory: 1022.48 MB physical, 2.31 GB virtual 7/2/2007 3:18:27 AM||Disk: 224.87 GB total, 145.63 GB free Which of course meets the requirements for all of the projects, by wide margins. Has anyone else ever seen this? I specifically remember configuring it to keep 3 days worth of jobs queued at all times. Apparently, that setting has been changed, and not by me. I can't find where the change is that is causing this. The way it's behaving now, in about five and a half hours it will have no work to do. Will it request a new job then, even though it won't for some reason do so now? |
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Sekerob
Ace Cruncher Joined: Jul 24, 2005 Post Count: 20043 Status: Offline |
You've still got lots of problems twisted0n3, and they remain elusive, so I'm not going to extend explanations which have been abundantly discussed around the fora. Action to take:
----------------------------------------1. Go to Project tab of BOINCmgr and select WCG. 2. Hit in left margin the "No New Tasks" button 3. Let work you have finish 4. Go to project tab again and hit update. 5. Verify that tasks tab and transfer tab are empty 6. Go to project tab again and hit Reset Alternate, just do 6. It will kill jobs in progress, but looses you the time computed so far on any job in progress. That should fix all the internal values that may have stopped you getting work. For the 'I did not do it, you did', just tell us what version you use of BOINC, and complete the 'Issue?' link questionnaire and send to the support@worldcommunitygrid.org. That will allow a detail analysis to be made of your problem and maybe catch the others in one fell swoop.
WCG
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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
You've still got lots of problems twisted0n3, and they remain elusive Apparently not only UD but BOINC has lots of bugs, and they remain elusive. 1. Go to Project tab of BOINCmgr and select WCG. 2. Hit in left margin the "No New Tasks" button 3. Let work you have finish 4. Go to project tab again and hit update. 5. Verify that tasks tab and transfer tab are empty 6. Go to project tab again and hit Reset So I'm supposed to stay up for the next five hours waiting for its current job to complete in order to nursemaid it into getting more work? I don't remember that being one of the "minimum system requirements" -- a human willing to forgo sleep some nights at random times without much notice. That should fix all the internal values that may have stopped you getting work. What "internal values" that may have stopped me getting work? The only thing that should stop me getting work is if I tell it to stop, or there is no more work for any of the selected projects. I even poked around in the XML files and crap -- it's still configured to queue up three days' work; it wasn't mysteriously changed to zero or anything. For the 'I did not do it, you did', just tell us what version you use of BOINC 5.8.16 and complete the 'Issue?' link questionnaire and send to the support@worldcommunitygrid.org. That will allow a detail analysis to be made of your problem and maybe catch the others in one fell swoop. It would have helped if you'd actually made "Issue?" a link in your post. I suppose I'm expected to simply guess the URL. Really, I just want to be able to stick the icon in "Startup", forget about it, and have it work perfectly without any further intervention on my part. It's software. It doesn't get rusty and have parts wear out. There's really no good reason why it shouldn't just work and stay working and only possibly stop working if some human somewhere changes something (or the power goes out or the network goes down). Now please tell me how to make it behave as described once it's reset -- work and stay working and not stop working unless someone monkeys with the settings or there's a hardware failure or something. Some setting to twiddle, some "always get new work" box I can check somewhere, whatever. Otherwise there's nothing to stop it doing this again. And again. And again... Oh, and as far as "abundantly discussed around the fora" is concerned, I tried a forum search for "boinc not getting new work" and the first page of hits was nothing but irrelevancies -- some religious debate about Christianity was one of the top ten for Christ's sake (yes, I suppose, literally). Either this has not been "abundantly discussed around the fora" or the forum search is badly broken. Either way, there's obviously no way for me to find and read these "abundant discussions" because either the search tool doesn't work or they simply don't exist. I certainly am not spending the next five (or however many) hours reading forum threads manually, one by one, looking for anything that vaguely seems relevant; that kind of exhaustive searching is what computers are for. If you want people finding existing postings about an issue before making a new thread, you should have a look at maybe fixing that forum search so it returns better-targeted results; what I got looked basically random. [Edit 1 times, last edit by Former Member at Jul 2, 2007 9:20:59 AM] |
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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
Works for me.
Works for everyone else. And Sekerob's link is at the bottom of his post. It's at the bottom of all his posts. |
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Sekerob
Ace Cruncher Joined: Jul 24, 2005 Post Count: 20043 Status: Offline |
It would have helped if you'd actually made "Issue?" a link in your post. I suppose I'm expected to simply guess the URL. The link is in every post i made on the WCG fora... presently 4895 times. Set the alarm for 4:00am or do as said step 6 for probable immediate remedy.... there will though possibly be a little latency as BOINC will recompute all the internal scheduling parameters that determine how much work you get. Patience is a virtue. Visit Unofficial BOINC Wiki for many inside knowledge questions you have.
WCG
----------------------------------------Please help to make the Forums an enjoyable experience for All! [Edit 1 times, last edit by Sekerob at Jul 19, 2007 5:12:20 PM] |
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olympic
Senior Cruncher Joined: Jun 12, 2005 Post Count: 156 Status: Offline |
Try this: Completely exit BOINC by right-clicking the icon in the task bar and choosing exit. Check that the science apps have stopped in the task manager. Go into your BOINC fiolder usually in c:\Program files\BOINC and delete client_state.xml and client_state_prev.xml You can always restore them from the recycle bin if needed. Then re-start BOINC
----------------------------------------These 2 files contain all the settings, stats, and information about your machine and likely one of them has become messed up. Deleting the files will make BOINC create new files and start fresh and things should return to normal after a day or so of crunching. ![]() |
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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
I cannot understand why you bother! Twisted never listens to anything you say, nor does what you suggest!
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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
The all users start menu folder hangs Explorer when I attempt to double-click it, preventing me from looking inside. Task manager shows blank user name by everything except System Idle Process, which is owned by SYSTEM. Yes, it's a broken computer. Properly working computers do not exhibit either of these symptoms. What have you done to it? Only major surgery or a complete malware infestation could mess a computer up to this degree. Trying to fix BOINC is futile in your case. You have more serious problems. Please take your computer in to be serviced. Thank you. |
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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
Works for me. Works for everyone else. Not good enough. Why doesn't it work for me? I'm the same as anyone else. Software isn't supposed to discriminate -- BOINC can't possibly know if I'm white or black, gay or straight, Christian or Muslim or Jew or atheist or whatever. On what basis would it treat one person differently than another? What you are saying simply doesn't make sense. It either has a bug or it doesn't have a bug. If it doesn't have a bug, I must be either hallucinating or lying, because mysteriously acting like it's been told to wind down a project when it hasn't been cannot possibly be correct behavior. I'm quite sure I'm doing neither thank you very much. And Sekerob's link is at the bottom of his post. I just reread his post. There isn't a single link in it, aside from the signature link-cruft that's on just about everyone's posts here except mine. I've long since been tuning out the signatures on posts; like ad banners, I basically don't even see them. Are you saying it's in there? That would be a strange thing to do, tell someone to follow some link and then stick it where you could be quite sure no-one would see it. In any event, there's clearly something bogus going on with BOINC and I still lack an adequate explanation of what. As far as I can tell, there are about four possibilities:
Those are, by the way, in decreasing order of probability. The first one simply requires someone to have made a mistake. The second one requires three big coincidences in timing. (Three, because HCMD is wrapping up at the same time.) The third requires someone somewhere to be crazy, which isn't too uncommon, and to have managed to write code coherent enough to compile while crazy, which is rather unlikely, and to have gotten such code accepted into a large open source project, which is really unlikely, and to have had that code remain unmolested all the time since despite being horribly broken, which is near impossible. The fourth requires me to be crazy, which actually is impossible. :P -- Edited for inappropriate language - nelsoc [Edit 1 times, last edit by Former Member at Jul 2, 2007 5:17:03 PM] |
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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
I repeat: Please take your computer in to be serviced.
You have broken it. |
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