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Former Member
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This is an odd one. Running BOINC seems to cause power management not to shut off my monitor after 30 minutes of idle time, but it does so intermittently. The monitor usually does turn off, and always does after half an hour of no user input if BOINC is not running (including if UD is running). But occasionally when BOINC is running the monitor may remain on for hours despite the machine receiving any keyboard or mouse input for the duration.
Doubly odd is an apparent bug in your forum software. I'd posted this already, and had gotten two or three replies by people saying they'd seen similar behavior, and then when I went to refresh it about five minutes ago to see if anyone had posted instructions to fix the problem, I got a spurious error message in some highly technical language that obviously isn't supposed to ever appear to end users, only the system admins over at WCG! It isn't the whole forum site down though; I was able to navigate back to the thread index but then unable with a fairly diligent search to find the link to the thread about the power management interaction. I figured perhaps something had caused the URL to change, and your server spoke a very odd dialect of 404, but apparently not -- it simply seems to be gone. So, I'm reposting it. Apologies if this is now a duplicate thread, and I missed the earlier one somehow instead of it being lost in some sort of crash or something. Can anyone suggest a way to prevent BOINC from affecting power management? I do have the screensaver triggering idle time set shorter -- 10 minutes instead of 30. On the other hand I'm fairly sure the problem that's actually supposed to prevent is "I never get to see the pretty graphics"...since having it set equal or longer would ensure the only times the screensaver was displayed were times the monitor wasn't turned on. :) In the meantime, the obvious workaround is for me to manually power off the monitor when I know I'm going to be gone for an extended time, and grit my teeth at the shortened backlight life and supersizing of my hydro bill when I leave "for a few minutes" and something comes up. :P |
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Sekerob
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There is a post about your threads in the website support forum.
----------------------------------------The repeat of the long answer i gave in short is covered in the Information about BOINC thread in the Start Here forum explaining the exact settings and requirements. Edit: Corrected spelling in title
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There is a post about your threads in the website support forum. The repeat of the long answer i gave in short is covered in the Information about BOINC thread in the Start Here forum explaining the exact settings and requirements. Er what? Could you just post an answer right here please? This is confusing, and when I check the thread in question (and also the BOINC FAQ it links to) I don't see anything about power management at all. If it's in there, it would take me hours to find it reading all of that stuff in detail, and it's not evident just skimming it, which is all I have time for right now. |
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How many times has this happened?
I'm afraid your memory of the deleted thread is faulty: I said I couldn't duplicate this behaviour. No bug corresponding to this behaviour has been filed, so it would be useful if you could describe the steps necessary to duplicate the problem, assuming for the moment that it is a bug. |
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Sekerob
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I'm strapped for time too... something to do with the few demanding so much time. Believe the english expression is "high maintenance customers".
----------------------------------------Your OP almost has the answer in it.... ain't it defeating to have the screensaver kick in when the energy savings mode of the monitor already has kicked in, at least, that's how you seemingly have set it up (could always be i misread). The thread I pointed at has a post about screensavers and the order of timings you need to set for things to function. It works on my laptop, desktop, tower.... i use a blank as the graphics is a http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/forums/wcg/viewthread?thread=4925#75214 edit: corrected spelling (2)
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How many times has this happened? Two or three. It's rather intermittent. I'm afraid your memory of the deleted thread is faulty: I said I couldn't duplicate this behaviour. My memory is not faulty and I don't take kindly to being publicly insulted. I never claimed you had said you could; I distinctly remember however that other people did say they had seen similar problems. No bug corresponding to this behaviour has been filed, so it would be useful if you could describe the steps necessary to duplicate the problem, assuming for the moment that it is a bug. 1. Set power management to turn off the monitor after 30 minutes idle time and screen saver to activate after 10, in control panel. 2. Install and configure BOINC. 3. Leave computer idle for hours from time to time (e.g. each night when you sleep) and eventually observe an occasion when the monitor is still on after more than 30 minutes idle time (e.g. when you get up in the morning). The tricky bit is 3. It doesn't seem to happen especially often. If you don't otherwise need to use it, or to be away or asleep, you might try disturbing the computer every 45 minutes or so over a few hours or whenever the monitor turns itself off. If after a while you find it's been 45 minutes since the last time and the monitor's still on, then you've reproduced it. |
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Your OP almost has the answer in it.... ain't it defeating to have the screensaver kick in when the energy savings mode of the monitor already has kicked in, at least, that's how you seemingly have set it up (could always be i misread). Not just "could be". Screensaver has the shorter fuse. I double checked. |
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I leave my screensaver off completely and have the power management turn off the monitor after, say, something like 10 min of inactivity. It seems to work with both BOINC and UD without problems. Screensavers just use processing power to bounce the WinXP all over the place (or whatever screensaver you use), and although I am sure it is not much processor usage, it is something I would rather dedicate to crunching.
Do you use the screensaver for a CRT monitor? That would be the only reason I would see to use one, just because it takes a little longer for it to power up after the monitor has been set into power savings compared to an LCD. Are you trying to use the BOINC screensaver or one of the default Windows screensavers? Just thought I would mess around later and try to duplicate the problem. Not today though, sorry. I am "off-site" for work. |
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Sekerob
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Your OP almost has the answer in it.... ain't it defeating to have the screensaver kick in when the energy savings mode of the monitor already has kicked in, at least, that's how you seemingly have set it up (could always be i misread). Not just "could be". Screensaver has the shorter fuse. I double checked. And is the BOINC idle resume fuse shorter than the Screensaver fuse?
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BOINC runs continually. I didn't set it to run only when the system's completely idle.
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