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Hey team --

I found this video on YouTube and had to share it with you. It is a video of 79 year old Ray Bethell, 8 time world champion Multiple Kite flier, flying 3 stunt kites simultaneously set to music (I am told that the piece is called "Flower Duet" by Delibes from the Opera Lakme). It is absolutely beautiful and a breath of fresh air in such a troubled world as ours! I hope you enjoy it as much as I.

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Hmm Im only getting about 500 points a day 24/7. I am now running all projects. Originally I was just running the genome thing and getting like 10 results a day avg then I figured maybe that was why I wasnt getting many points.

As has been said, if you use BOINC, you can expect to average more points per day. BOINC has a different way of awarding points than the UD Grid Agent. With the Grid Agent, when a work unit is completed, a short CPU benchmark is run on your system. The result of that benchmark is used to award points for the just completed work unit immediately. There is a bit of a flaw here in that the benchmark is influenced by whatever you are running at the moment and, if you happen to be running something CPU intensive at that moment, fewer points will be awarded. BOINC does not award points as the work unit is completed. Each work unit is sent to multiple users (usually 3) to insure that accurate results are produced (this prevents the results from inaccuracies due to things like processor errors from minor hardware bugs). When the results from all of the users that ran the work unit have been returned, they are averaged in some manner and the same number of points is awarded to each of the users that ran that work unit. This can be right away, or it can be several days later depending on how the users run their systems. If, for example, one is running on a laptop only when it is not on battery power, it might be several days after you have completed the work unit before he does and you will not see the points until then. If you are running WCG on only one system as I am right now, this will result in inconsistant daily totals (the past week, I have seen daily point totals vary between 1700 and 5000 points -- my average is about 3000 points).

Another thing comes into play as well, and this has more to do with why you are awarded more points while running BOINC. BOINC has its own scale for awarding points that is much lower than that of the UD Grid Agent. Because of this, the WCG multiplies the BOINC points by some number (that I've never seen published) in an attempt to scale them around what would have been awarded by the Grid Agent had the work unit been run on it. The number was arrived at through some testing that the WCG ran. From what many of us have seen, that multiplier results in more points being awarded for work run using BOINC. I think it may be as much as a third higher from my own experience.

I hope I haven't bored everyone to tears with this explanation, but, in a nutshell, you can expect to average more points with BOINC, but your daily totals will probably vary quite a bit.

Dave you havent bored me one bit!!! It brings tears to my eyes to have you back---I is like the old days-You dont know how it feels to have you back. I love it post away---Your friend and team mate Gerald wink
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TY Gerald and thanks for all of the prayers and thoughts while I was away. I'm glad to see you on the mend after your great loss as well. I know we were with you as you both suffered through that.
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Dave & Gerald.

I seem to recall that the number of points we get for each BOINC WU returned is worked out as being roughly BOINC points x 7 = UD points, but I could be wrong.

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Nope - you is absolutely correct biggrin
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Thanks Adywebb@BC, my memory tends to play tricks on me these days. Now, I wonder where I put my keyboard.

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Hey team --

I found this video on YouTube and had to share it with you. It is a video of 79 year old Ray Bethell, 8 time world champion Multiple Kite flier, flying 3 stunt kites simultaneously set to music (I am told that the piece is called "Flower Duet" by Delibes from the Opera Lakme). It is absolutely beautiful and a breath of fresh air in such a troubled world as ours! I hope you enjoy it as much as I.

I found another video (which has won awards, incidentally) in which Dr. Bethell explains a bit about his passion for flying kites here. He also has a website.
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I don't run Boinc for the points but more for the ease of switching projects.....I didn't crunch at WCG for over a year but I am back for a little while longer...
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Hey team --

I found this video on YouTube and had to share it with you.


Awesome! I have tried flying kites with my children but with only very limited success - this man is truly an artist!

The music is indeed Flower Duet by Lakmé. In my younger days I attended a medieval night with some ICAEW students - a rowdy lot at the best of times and even more so at such an event. The early evening entertainment was 3 not-so-young ladies singing opera-type music. The first couple of tunes went down as expected, i.e. bread rolls were thrown across the hall at them. The next tune was this one. Incidentally, for those of us in the UK, this music was used by British Airways some years ago in one of their adverts.

When the ladies sang this the whole place was in awed silence - a truly magnificent piece of music and an event that I shall remember always cool

Thanks for the link Dave biggrin
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Thanks for the link Dave

I'm glad you liked it. Your story about hearing that piece from the opera was good -- I can just imagine it in my mind. It reminds me of the point in Shawshank Redemption where Andy (played by Tim Robbins) plays an operetic piece over the prison's PA system. It was best described by Morgan Freeman's character Red in the film, "They were singing about something so beautiful that it can't be expressed in words...and makes your heart ache because of it."
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