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Johnny Cool
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Stat problems here at the WCG

Odd that nobody has yet to mention this. The Free-DC stats is current "off kilter". Whatever that means ... devilish

When you check "Global Stats", the Teams and Individuals are listed *without* a number ranking like it was at UD.org. You actually have to do a "cut and paste" of the Top 250 and then try to find where your Team or Team Mates rank. Unacceptable. Perhaps it is a problem with this version of the mvnForum 1.0.0 RC3 (Build: 29 June 2004). I really don't know.

You don't have to be a Human Factors/Usability Software engineer to figure some of these things out. I know, because I have placed many of them at many Software Development companies as an IT recruiter.

Ehhh, a small detail lacking (perhaps). Anyways, keep on crunching! wink
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Re: Stat problems here at the WCG

Have you got a link to that JC - can't seem to find what you mean blushing
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Re: Stat problems here at the WCG

It's in transition between days at the moment, awaiting the new results.

There's a link in his SIG, as well as mine. I have a team rank and project rank in there, but don't see the up/down arrows.

Is THIS really a problem for WCG?

Local Rank Team Rank Project Rank Name Today Last Update Yesterday 2 Days Ago Daily Average Last 7 Days Last 28 Days Results CpuTime Points
1 1 75 retep57 0 0 8,307 11,999 10,466 64,440 241,348 11,913 284,656,744 3,524,261
2 2 80 ghunt 0 0 3,572 4,739 4,305 25,751 105,342 11,949 336,081,685 3,299,149
3 3 99 retsof 0 0 290 5,159 5,315 32,314 162,805 14,283 155,857,117 2,527,552
4 4 102 Chieftain 0 0 4,355 4,690 4,799 29,332 116,312 12,160 411,302,743 2,436,276
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Re: Stat problems here at the WCG

I know the Free-DC site and where it is - just can't see what bit I'm supposed to be looking at smile
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Re: Stat problems here at the WCG

I'm not sure either. My rank is #3 in the team and #99 in the project. That sounds normal to me.

The team ranks #19
18 18 Free-DC 0 0 18,727 18,681 18,549 129,844 625,562 70,768 2,142,966,659 22,686,622 1.18 0.31
19 19 Vulture Central III 0 0 104,106 122,995 135,223 946,559 2,324,292 87,678 2,415,804,225 22,403,583 1.17 1.16
20 20 Greeks United (hosted by TheLab.gr) 0 0 24,783 34,444 29,359 205,512 801,743 67,164 1,707,459,132 22,383,450 1.16 0.40

The last team result was 104,106

Our current statistics is running, so we can't look at it. As a former ACTUAL I.T. programmer, I knew somebody would probably ask, so I saved a copy. That number is from Saturday

Saturday, June 2, 2007

Statistics Date/Total Run Time/Points/Results
____________(y:d:h:m:s)_Generated_Returned
06/02/2007 0:092:21:09:17 104,106 494

Stats free-dc hasn't collected statistics from Sunday. That's probably what JC's "out of kilter" message meant. When stats free-dc becomes current again, it will probably combine a couple of days results. I have seen stats free-dc do that before also. Actual I.T. programmers need to know things like that. wink

It still sounds like a problem of stats free-dc not collecting the data, not wcg not having it available.
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Re: Stat problems here at the WCG

Have you got a link to that JC - can't seem to find what you mean blushing


The Free-DC Stats is currently hosed.

The stats from WCG does not list Teams or Team Mates with actual numbers. It's just a list.

Meaning, that if you look at the Top 100 Teams in either category, you just see a list without the numbered "Rank". Like it was at UD.org.

Like ...

Team So-and-so, ranked at #50 (or whatever). It's just a list! wink

Kinda surprised that nobody has seen this discrepancy.
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Re: Stat problems here at the WCG

Inglese not my native tongue, "out of kilt-er" may mean that a Scotsman finally took his kilt off to put in the laundry and the cold showing off the real truth of the matter. Trouble is, if washed too hot, the kilt might too show signs of shrinkage :P
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Re: Stat problems here at the WCG

Inglese not my native tongue, "out of kilt-er" may mean that a Scotsman finally took his kilt off to put in the laundry and the cold showing off the real truth of the matter. Trouble is, if washed too hot, the kilt might too show signs of shrinkage :P
I couldn't see that Scotsman paying for enough energy to make all of that hot water. He'd probably wash everything in cold --- if he washed at all. All Scots in the area would probably do a load of laundry at the same time, and share the cost of the load.

It gets worse. The newly formed Royal Regiment of Scotland has over 5000 soldiers, but there are only enough kilts for 1 of 15.

AP - Updated: 4:54 p.m. CT Dec 18, 2006
LONDON - Great Scot! A shortage of ceremonial kilts could leave thousands of soldiers without a stitch of plaid to wear as they parade to the skirl of the bagpipes.

Military officials said Monday that more than 5,000 Scottish soldiers are having to share their kilts because defense chiefs have not finalized a contract to buy enough of the garments to go around.

The men, who face regular tours of duty in south Iraq and Afghanistan, have just 320 kilts, or one for every 15 soldiers.
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Re: Stat problems here at the WCG

Have you got a link to that JC - can't seem to find what you mean blushing


The Free-DC Stats is currently hosed.

The stats from WCG does not list Teams or Team Mates with actual numbers. It's just a list.

Meaning, that if you look at the Top 100 Teams in either category, you just see a list without the numbered "Rank". Like it was at UD.org.

Like ...

Team So-and-so, ranked at #50 (or whatever). It's just a list! wink

Kinda surprised that nobody has seen this discrepancy.

Sorry JC - I'm probably being really thick here (no surprise!!) - but if I go to the team list for regular WCG stats here for instance: http://stats.free-dc.org/new/allteams.php?proj=wcg - I see Andrax ranked at #13, likewise WCG Boinc stats here at #23: http://stats.free-dc.org/new/allteams.php?proj=wcg - is that not what you mean confused

If your talking about a different page, can you link to it to help me out crying



Edit: Just thought - your talking about the Stats pages available here at the WCG site , NOT over at Free-DC aren't you d oh

Yep, your right about that JC, I had noticed it and its a pain not having them numbered, you have to keep manually counting down the list - just never thought about posting a suggestion to try to get it done as it would be a big help as like others I tend to use other sites - but when they are borked for overall WCG stats , like Free DC at the moment, you have to rely on those here.

So now I finally understand your suggestion - I fully support the idea applause

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Re: Stat problems here at the WCG

No you don't with a little spreadsheet import routine and some formula of string conversion & h/v lookup.... it's just that I cant remember the grorg layout and my photographic memory not being as photographic anymore. The 350gb HD having all my pictures has been dead for a while ;>)

JC, would you mind posting sample matrix of a piece of the present screen and add in bold the item(s) you'd want to see.... the Team position number is obvious but the team-member list might be wantin' a bit extra e.g.:
Member-Name,  Overall / Day  , Team Overall, WCG Rank 
Points / Day Ranking
Member X 400,000 / 3,998 1 / 3 99,999
Member Y 399,999 / 4,000 2 / 1 100,000
Member Z 399,998 / 3,999 3 / 2 100,001
etc

K.I.S.S it as the more complicated and more features, the longer and less likely will the change be promoted to a future web-site revision to-do list.

cheers

PS, 'our' team has like 3 home-brewed WCG points based stats, so if out, we jump to back ups :O
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