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Sekerob
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Re: PC rebooting randomly

Here is the system info:

I know how to set the screen saver to kick in after a set amount of time, but how do I set the crunching idle time. (What is the crunching idle time). I have the PC set so that it crunches constantly.

Not to worry then, but in the website profile there is an option to tell BOINC only work when the system is not used and time to wait.
Advanced Options
-Processor Usage-
Do work while computer is in use? No
Do work only after computer is idle for: 5 minutes


All the hardware parms are fine, but the open question from earlier is, what the real physical ram is. That can be seen at boot up or with a utllity like CPU-Z. 704mb is a strange value. like really 512+256 = 768 and 64 used by video.
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Re: PC rebooting randomly

CPU-Z claims that in slot-1 there is 512MB and in slot-2 there is 256MB.

So your suspicion about the 64MB being used for video is probably correct.
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Re: PC rebooting randomly

if you have the HT, don't use 2jobs for BOINC - it will try to do the 2jobs! actually i think that is the problem, 'cause it has 800+MB of SWAP file...

check the temp. in your system for optimal computing...might be the overheating 'cause of all the dust in the vents, fans & coolers...there is a lot of programs, but you only need one input, so check the SiSoft Sandra!
if it's over 55°C open the case & clean the dust with vacume cleaner of sthg else...just get the dust out, without touching anything, especially if you don't know how to fix a computer!

check the BIOS for the amount of GPU shared memory with RAM...and some tweaks there - might be the issue?!


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Re: PC rebooting randomly

The problem has actually ceased since I switched from the BOINC screen saver to a normal Windows one.

I have the load levels set to go 60% max, so I don't think it will be a heat problem. I don't have a facility to test the temp of the CPU unless there is a s/w way of doing it.

The PC was hoovered out about 6 months ago when I put more ram into it, and it wasn't that dusty then (hadn't been opened for 4 years before that).

You ask if I have HT. What is HT.

I don't think I have 2 jobs running as when I go into the process list, the only thing using the processor is the BOINC wcg job.
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Re: PC rebooting randomly

The problem has actually ceased since I switched from the BOINC screen saver to a normal Windows one.


might indicate the problem with FSB-to-AGP bridge & shared RAM!


I have the load levels set to go 60% max, so I don't think it will be a heat problem. I don't have a facility to test the temp of the CPU unless there is a s/w way of doing it.


i told you: SiSoft Sandra!

here: http://www.sisoftware.net/
use the free version!


The PC was hoovered out about 6 months ago when I put more ram into it, and it wasn't that dusty then (hadn't been opened for 4 years before that).


check, but only if the temp. is too high...


You ask if I have HT. What is HT.


then check the BOINC...I think you are running the 2jobs, which is not good 'cause HT is emulated dual-core...and you have only one proc with only one terminal for floating point!

so compute only 1job!


I don't think I have 2 jobs running as when I go into the process list, the only thing using the processor is the BOINC wcg job.


forget the taskbar, check on the BOINC...when you open it, it says how many jobs there are running...

in novice option, it has the them listed as lists...
in advanced option - don't know!
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Re: PC rebooting randomly

There's a long list of acronyms in a Start Here post. HT = Hyperthreading.

Your problem points towards a graphics issue. If you're happy, fine. If you want the WCG BOINC graphics to show,we need to dig. 1 Test you can perform:

Open the Agent and go to Advanced View. Open Task Tab and select the job in progress. Hit the Graphics button in left margin. The Projects Graph should show. Next step is to max that graphics window and see if things continue.

If the left margin graphics button is greyed, there's already a problem because all WCG project running on BOINC presently have active graphics.
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Re: PC rebooting randomly

Only one job according to BOINC and temperature stable at around 24 centigrade.
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Re: PC rebooting randomly

The problem has actually ceased since I switched from the BOINC screen saver to a normal Windows one.

I have the load levels set to go 60% max, so I don't think it will be a heat problem. I don't have a facility to test the temp of the CPU unless there is a s/w way of doing it.

The PC was hoovered out about 6 months ago when I put more ram into it, and it wasn't that dusty then (hadn't been opened for 4 years before that).

You ask if I have HT. What is HT.

I don't think I have 2 jobs running as when I go into the process list, the only thing using the processor is the BOINC wcg job.


HT is hyperthreading.

You should be able to check m/b and cpu temps in your system bios. You can also turn HT on/of there.

Bios varies a lot by m/b. If you have AMD bios, you get into bios setup by pressing the "del" key after the POST (Power on self test) but while machine is still booting up. If in doubt, just keep punching the del key as system restarts. After that, you'll have to refer to m/b manual. you can almost certainly d/l from the m/b maker's web site - probably in pdf format.

temps should be shown in both centigrade and fahrenheit. Reboot system after it has run at full capacity (with boinc or ud) for several minutes - but not long enough for spontaneous reboot. When system comes back on, press whatever key you need to in order to get into bios. Go to bios section specified in manual for checking m/b temp. If cpu temp is over 130 degrees Fahrenheit, something is wrong with cooling. could have a worn bearing on your cpu fan or a case ventilation fan could be bad. Post again and let us know.

800 or so meg of virtual memory is very low - especially for the amount of actual ram you have. You should change that. However, if your c drive is already very crowded and you dont' have much HD space, and you only have one HD in the machine, you probably won't be able to increase the amount.

to check

1. go to control panel and select "system"
2. click on advanced tab
3. under "performance" click button labeled "settings"
4. a new window called "Performance options" will come up
5. click on the advanced tab
6. under "virtual memory" click "change"
7. a third window called "virtual Memory" will come up
8. c drive should be highlighted. if not click on it once.
9. "system managed size" should be checked. If "no paging file" is selected, click on "system managed size" then click set and then ok

if "custom size" is selected, change it to initial of 2,000 and max of 3,000 or 4,000 - depending on how much space you have on HDD. Don't make too big since that will slow you down. Click the set button (must do this for it work) then click ok.

If you have more than one hdd, then highlight and do same thing.

You should do this even if it doesn't impact this problem since right now it is set too low. However this is ok if the "system managed" option was selected and you have at least several gigabytes of free HDD space.
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Re: PC rebooting randomly

When I try to max the graphics window as suggested, the main part of the window fills the screen, but the actual graphics themselves only occupy the usual 1/4 screen at the bottom left hand corner.

The rest of the window seems corrupt in some way.

I'm happy to leave things as they are because at present the PC is happily crunching away and not falling over.

However if the problem actually interests someone and they have NOTHING better to do, then keep firing in the suggestions.

John
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Re: PC rebooting randomly

When I try to max the graphics window as suggested, the main part of the window fills the screen, but the actual graphics themselves only occupy the usual 1/4 screen at the bottom left hand corner.

The rest of the window seems corrupt in some way.

I'm happy to leave things as they are because at present the PC is happily crunching away and not falling over.

However if the problem actually interests someone and they have NOTHING better to do, then keep firing in the suggestions.

John

Nope - nothing better to do. Trying to stay still so I don't irritate my esophagus.
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