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Linux FAAH workunits crash as soon as they start

For the past few weeks any new FAAH workunits on my Linux pc crash immediately after starting. FAAH previously worked OK. Has anything changed ? I tried reseeting the project, still no good.
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confused Re: Linux FAAH workunits crash as soon as they start

Hello rcbutcher,
What other projects run well on your system?
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Re: Linux FAAH workunits crash as soon as they start

This Linux AMD_64 cpu is running BBC CPDN, Rosetta, LHC, QMC, Malaria with no problems. Is there something about the FAAH workunits that requires 32-bit shared modules ? Where do I find the actual error messages ?
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Re: Linux FAAH workunits crash as soon as they start

Error messages are either to be found in the Message tab or in a log(txt) file u can find in the BOINC dir and finally the a log that sits in the Result Status pages under the Status column.

System Requirements are specified here: http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/help/viewTopic.do?shortName=minimumreq and show for Linux, Mac and Windows and detailed by project. Not familiar with '32-bit Shared Module' and why u think this could interfere with the operations. Certainly, the science is not configured to run in 64-bit.
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Re: Linux FAAH workunits crash as soon as they start

I was referring to shared libraries (libabcxyz.so.0 etc). If the faah program tries to use any shared libraries on my machine it will likely fail because they are all 64-bit and boinc programs are 32-bit. But the other boinc programs I referred to work OK.

The error message on the results status page is
<core_client_version>5.4.11</core_client_version>
<message>
process got signal 11
</message>
<stderr_txt>
INFO: wcg_faah_autodock_5.28_i686-pc-linux-gnu Start AutoGrid...
About to call graphics init

</stderr_txt>

Looks like it's trying to use my graphics system. ? But I don't use any of the visualization stuff, so it really doesn't need to.
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Re: Linux FAAH workunits crash as soon as they start

I was referring to shared libraries (libabcxyz.so.0 etc). If the faah program tries to use any shared libraries on my machine it will likely fail because they are all 64-bit and boinc programs are 32-bit. But the other boinc programs I referred to work OK.

The error message on the results status page is
<core_client_version>5.4.11</core_client_version>
<message>
process got signal 11
</message>
<stderr_txt>
INFO: wcg_faah_autodock_5.28_i686-pc-linux-gnu Start AutoGrid...
About to call graphics init

</stderr_txt>

Looks like it's trying to use my graphics system. ? But I don't use any of the visualization stuff, so it really doesn't need to.

The graphics code is contained in a shared object, which is linked to OpenGL and other shared objects. This library is loaded and initialized on application startup. Graphics aren't actually shown unless you display them, but the library is initialized to inform BOINC that graphics are available, thus enabling the "Show Graphics" button....or not depending on whether the library was successfully loaded or not.

If you are running in strict 64-bit mode and don't have any 32-bit shared objs on your system, this library will obviously fail to load.

However, even if it fails to load, it's not supposed to crash. The code is supposed to handle loading failure gracefully (i.e. continue on without graphics).

It's also possible that it actually crashes due to a bug in Linux when run on a strictly 64-bit system (e.g. the dlopen() call crashes instead of returning NULL...though this is unlikely). That is a scenario I believe we haven't tested on yet. The problem with this scenario is that would mean ALL of our WCG apps with graphics would crash on your system. Those without graphics would run fine. Have you noticed this ONLY with FAAH or have you noticed this recently with HDC or GC projects?
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Re: Linux FAAH workunits crash as soon as they start

I was referring to shared libraries (libabcxyz.so.0 etc). If the faah program tries to use any shared libraries on my machine it will likely fail because they are all 64-bit and boinc programs are 32-bit. But the other boinc programs I referred to work OK.

The error message on the results status page is
<core_client_version>5.4.11</core_client_version>
<message>
process got signal 11
</message>
<stderr_txt>
INFO: wcg_faah_autodock_5.28_i686-pc-linux-gnu Start AutoGrid...
About to call graphics init

</stderr_txt>

Looks like it's trying to use my graphics system. ? But I don't use any of the visualization stuff, so it really doesn't need to.

The graphics code is contained in a shared object, which is linked to OpenGL and other shared objects. This library is loaded and initialized on application startup. Graphics aren't actually shown unless you display them, but the library is initialized to inform BOINC that graphics are available, thus enabling the "Show Graphics" button....or not depending on whether the library was successfully loaded or not.

If you are running in strict 64-bit mode and don't have any 32-bit shared objs on your system, this library will obviously fail to load.

However, even if it fails to load, it's not supposed to crash. The code is supposed to handle loading failure gracefully (i.e. continue on without graphics).

It's also possible that it actually crashes due to a bug in Linux when run on a strictly 64-bit system (e.g. the dlopen() call crashes instead of returning NULL...though this is unlikely). That is a scenario I believe we haven't tested on yet. The problem with this scenario is that would mean ALL of our WCG apps with graphics would crash on your system. Those without graphics would run fine. Have you noticed this ONLY with FAAH or have you noticed this recently with HDC or GC projects?


I can't tell you what my box does with other WCG projects as they all come back with "Message from server: No work is available for ... (GC, HDC..)"
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Re: Linux FAAH workunits crash as soon as they start

I get what looks like the same error for HDC.

<core_client_version>5.4.11</core_client_version>
<message>
process got signal 11
</message>
<stderr_txt>
About to call graphics init

</stderr_txt>
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