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Hello kind readers,
I cannot use WCGA/Muscular Dystrophy on my wife's computer : P4P800E-DLX / 2*512M Corsair / 3.4GhzC Northwood / WXP Pro SP2 using all latest bios, drivers, etc. usual max temp under load is 38° (i use a thermoelectric cooler) idle temp is at 17, max banch loop 2hours is 45/48°C (45CPU 48TEC) after 5 to 10 minutes of WCG and nothing else, cpu temp flies over 55-58° and the TEC is at 60°. if i leave my computer like this, i am pretty sure all will be dead and melted after an hour. Q: does WCGA / Muscular Dystrophy makes my cpu more hot, and by far, than any other cpu stressing application ? why doesnt it do that on my P4C 2.6Ghz ? Special optimization due to cache size and stock speed ? (nothing is overclocked here) thanks for the time spent reading, and the help you might bring to me :) Florent - flopanda - #1845 |
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CPUs usually run a little hotter when they are working harder. But not by a lot.
Your idle temperature is unusually low. It's lower than room temperature. I can't help but wonder whether your temperature probe is broken or miscalibrated, or if you keep your computer in a freezer. WCG cannot make your computer run hotter than any other application that uses your CPU at 100% and keeps it there (image processing, rendering a DVD, that sort of thing). WCG may run even cooler than that, because the default throttle setting for the United Devices WCG program only runs the CPU at 60%. So, the first thing to worry about is: are all the fans and cooling devices working properly? Do the temperature probes report the temperature accurately and speed up the fans when required? However, modern CPUs do run very hot. A temperature in the 50s is really nothing to worry about. Maximum operating temperatures range from 60 to 100 degrees C. The maximum for your CPU is 69. The cutoff is probably at 85 (but that's just a default BIOS setting). So, check your cooling, keep an eye on it, and report back. You can always throttle WCG back a bit if you need to. |
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Thanks for your answer : )
----------------------------------------i am sorry that my message wasnt too clear on some points, i was retyping after firefox ate my precedent post and sent it to another universe (frustration doesnt go well with concentration) The cpu of my wife computer is cooled via thermo-electric system that provides, in exchange of some extra Watts (peltier effect) real low temperature to cpu known to spread a LOT of heat. 3.4Ghz is known to behave this way, so i bought this fancy little 'fridge' that makes it around 20-25 degrees under the 'normal' temperature. i am going to make different tries with other agents on this computer (my wife wont like that, i am not supposed to mess with her best friend) and see if it comes from WCGA, HCMD itself. (a good old boinc vs wcga/xxxx will keep me busy for some time :) i ll keep you informed about that. Also, related to my post 'WCGA uses only 33% of cpu" it seems that on the 3.4Ghz it takes all that it can. maybe a cpu optimization inside the program just a lucky guess based on fuzzy memory.... I will be back with more material Edit: There i'm back and i have some answers. i tried different projects and found out that wcgridHCMD _seems_ to be requesting more cpu% than other projects. let me explain : most projects make let pause appears on cpu graph, or have a lessened cpu average use (either spikes between 20 and 50 or kind of constant line around 35%) HCMD though, runs 'stronger' than others per default so i played a bit with WCGridMaxCPU i ran a test of genome at default, then at "100% setting" using wcgridmaxcpu. temperature started to climb over 35° instead of 25° with default setting. then i reinstalled with hcmd and ran hcmd at 60n then 40% setting, and at the moment i write those lines, cpu temp goes from 33 to 37 and TEC temp is stable at 38 but increasing slowly. my guess is that the peltier is slightly insufficient in power, which will be solved next week (going 110 instead of 90W) as it has a very fast response cooling effect, if the software makes regular pauses the temp stays ok, that s the case in most apps and games and stuff my wife runs on this machine. benchmarks tend to get temp a bit higher, around 45-47 after a 2 hours loop. but HCMD is the only one that almost killed my TEC in less than 10 minutes, i dont know how much it can handle, but 60 seems a bit too much to my taste (if TEC dies, PC stays off until i get a new peltier component) right now TEC is taking one extra degree per 2 minutes round, running at 42 and might be higher later. so 40% is still too strong :/ i have to say that s the best coded program, at least the one that takes all that my cpu can give. my other computer at 2.6Ghz doesnt have problem, temp is stable with stock intel heatsink, but a 2.6Ghz doesnt produce the heat a 3.4Ghz does. also this is old fat pentium northwoods, i guess that on dualcores, the cooldown is so fast that average temp must stay very reasonable. my 2 cents.... at 30% it seems the TEC can hold it.... will let it go for an hour and see.... thanks to all of you who red this (not very) useful post :) Florent [Edit 1 times, last edit by Former Member at Dec 28, 2006 2:10:54 AM] |
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Hi
I'm w/Team Andrax, just surfing around! How much hardrive space are u dedicating? Synchronicity is especially important w/some of these agents. I have a fast tortoise: AMD Duron 1.6GHz, 256 MB RAM, 5GB dedicated. If the ducks line up, all should be well! |
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