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Former Member
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Hello uplinger;
Yes, the 'i' graphic shows up in good order. It's info is: Ver 5.1.2.0 CPU throttle = 60% progress after 4 hr 40 min = 0.5% This homemade system is 1.6 gig CPU with 640MB of DDR RAM I've been running seti@home and the WCG multi program for about a year on this machine. This WCG problem started about 10 days ago. Thanks, Ron Mayne Southeast PA USA |
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uplinger
Former World Community Grid Tech Joined: May 23, 2005 Post Count: 3952 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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Hello Ron and Gloria,
You show progression of the work unit in your last statement. A question I have for you is that you state you are running both seti@home and WCG on a 1.6 Ghz processor. Are you running both at the same time? If so this will decrease the speed of processing the workunits for both seti and WCG. If you are using the seti@home client (which is BOINC), then I can help get you only using one client which will help out. -Uplinger |
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Sekerob
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Uplinger,
----------------------------------------It's discussed in other threads...... BOiNC will cause UD agent HPF2 if run simultaneous to get reduced to trickle progress. If run with FAAH, GC or HDC, it just gets it's equal share, or whatever the throttle setting is. cheers http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/forums/wcg/viewthread?thread=10203#79289 http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/forums/wcg/viewthread?thread=10144#79346
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Hello Sekerob
Hello uplinger Ron M here; so has this Version 5.1.2.0 been operating for 10-14 days?? This is how long my WCG problems have existed. I have been running BOINC seti@home and WCG in the background at the same time on this 1.6 gig CPU system for more than one year with good progress on both programs for this entire time. Perhaps the 5.1.2.0 is not willing to compete with BOINC seti for background time; maybe??? I just shut down the BOINC seti@home program and the WCG has completed 10% of its current task in about 20 minutes (HPF_2). Sekerob, all of the squiggly lines are now showing in the 5.1.2.0 graphic. And for the current time, I have reset the CPU throttle to 90%. And also; for now I told the 'system properties' to give priority to the background programs. Hey guys, advice I could certainly use. I'm building these systems for family and for self out of used computer parts that folks donate to me. This 1.6 gig via a DELL MB is my max system for now. Perhaps we can make BOINC and WCG share the background equally. Thank you from RON M of PA USA PS: Sekerob, is there some button that converts the 'IT' of your website to English?? |
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Alther
Former World Community Grid Tech United States of America Joined: Sep 30, 2004 Post Count: 414 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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You may be running into a problem scenario when running BOINC and UD with the default CPU throttle.
----------------------------------------A long time ago, BOINC did not set the priority of the science application properly. As a result, it would starve the UD agent instead of splitting the free CPU time between them. I believe this has been resolve and is no longer an issue. Even with BOINC running the app at the proper priority, the default CPU throttle in UD will cause it to basically consume no CPU time if BOINC is running. The reason is that the default 60% throttle for UD basically tells the science app not to push the CPU above 60% (for all apps on the system). It does not mean that the app can use up to 60% CPU. e.g. When just running UD using default throttle, if the rest of the system is taking 10% of the CPU, the science app will actually only use 50% of it. So, if BOINC and UD are running and UD is using the default throttle of 60%, the UD process will basically starve to death because the CPU is constantly above 60% usage. It will get some CPU, but not much at all. The way to get BOINC and UD to split the time evenly is to use the Throttle Tool to set the CPU Utilization to 100%. Try this instead of stoping BOINC all together. You can download the Throttle Tool from here: http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/help/viewTopic.do?shortName=cpuuse#230
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Sekerob
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Alther, the scenario is, that with FAAH / GC / HDC the balance is fine and compliance to throttle is adhered to. With HPF2, that goes out the window. I've tested it, forced various WU's into UD agent, removed registry keys what not. HFP2 just succumbs to BOiNC if run on a single thread (I'm on 5.7.5 who's internal throttle is set to 100).
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Alther
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Sekerob, I believe you are correct. HPF2 is behaving rather strange when BOINC is running and I'm not sure why yet. It's getting just a few milliseconds of run time every second or so and it should be getting much more. I'll be looking into it.
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Hello uplinger;
I tried 100% throttle and still HPF_2 inside WCG almost moves 'not at all' as I am running seti@home on the same 1.6 gig CPU system. So, I told WCG of UD to remove HPF_2 from my work list. Now, 'seti@home' and 'WCG minus HPF_2' both seem to complete a work unit in 24-27 hours. Although, I really don't know how to compare the amount of actual work completed by either work function in this amount of time. Thanks for any additional input, Ron Mayne of SE PA USA |
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Sekerob
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Ron, just look in the Taskmanager. There is or can be added a column to view the accumulated CPU time for each task. There's also a column for CPU %. It's a good indicator if time is split evenly or whether, as Alther puts it, a job is being starved by the other.
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