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I think that last is really the biggest issue at this point. Distributed computing like this has been around and popular for years now, so many (most?) of those inclined to contribute have already heard of it and are doing so somewhere else. Advertising is good for bringing in people who have never done this before, but those who are doing so already seem most likely to remain where they are. So what makes this a better choice than seti, folding@home, grid.org, et cetera? I think it is better set up as a 'clearinghouse' for projects than the others, but that's only a plus when there are lots of projects and lots of users - which we don't have yet. Logically we should be trying to combine the user bases rather than split them into various grids. While the primary plan for new projects here seems to be to review submissions, I might suggest reaching out to other grid projects (first the smaller ones) to offer to host their project with our user base as well. From there, integrating their engine into WCG could transfer the entire user base or we'd just 'inherit' some of them when that other project was completed.


I think this is a KEY point if IBM/WCG think/want any possibility of reaching > 1,000,000 active users [they mention that are prepared to provision hardware even if the number exceeds 10,000,000!].

But, in seti and folding, I found just low hundreds of thousands of users - so, if they ALL moved to WCG, we would still be far short of even 1,000,000 users.

Net. IBM/WCG must attract many new users to grid computing. Getting the software and forums running well is a first step. But, if they're serions about the 1,000,000+ range, theyve got to really step up the 'marketing/promotion' efforts.
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You are right, fj. If you use Google, you will see that most grid projects for the next few years are research projects designing grids. Before always-on broadband connections / multi-GB hard drives / fractional GB RAM this was a very limited field. The next generation of school children will grow up believing in donating computer time the way the current one believes in benefit sales for school projects.

This is going to grow!

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Net. IBM/WCG must attract many new users to grid computing. Getting the software and forums running well is a first step. But, if they're serions about the 1,000,000+ range, theyve got to really step up the 'marketing/promotion' efforts.


If 10 000 members each got 10 people to join we'd add 100 000 members to our ranks.
IF 25 000 of them each got 10 people to join we'd have another 250 000.
If 25% of 250 000 each enlisted 10 people then we'd gain another 625 000 members.
So if 25% of that lot enlisted 10 new members we'd have 1 562 500 added to the grid.
All totalled thats almost 2.5 million members.

Impossible to do in, say, 4 months? I wonder thinking
Slashdotters went from approx. 100 members to approx. 3000 members in 4 days. shock
You could say that 25% of their original members each brought in 120 new members each in 4 days.
In my example above I'm only talking about 25% of the members bringing in 10 new members each over an entire month for 4 months.

Word-of-mouth! laughing

Start spreading the word! cool
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Hi lawrencehardin,
I expect that we will eventually have to remind some people that it is not a good idea to run Windows forever without rebooting

Is MS Update the only reason for rebooting, or are there any other cons running Win perpetually? Please elaborate.
Thanks, Ivang.
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Well, memory leaks from poorly written / debugged software slowly clog up some systems. Poorly specified 'standards' can cause the same problem even when good programmers carefully adhere to the rules. Strange states can build up. An occasional reboot will clear up these problems before they ever become obtrusively obvious. Usually there are far too many possible causes to really point a finger and say:
'That is the definite culprit!"

So for most systems that are not rigidly managed and controlled, an occasional reboot is a good idea. The occasional software update that requires a reboot keeps a lot of people who run their computers 24/7 from being hurt by this problem.
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So for most systems that are not rigidly managed and controlled, an occasional reboot is a good idea. The occasional software update that requires a reboot keeps a lot of people who run their computers 24/7 from being hurt by this problem.


Yep. Which leads some to brag, justifiably, about how long their workstation has run without a reboot.
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