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Many computer but ...

I can use many computer but have only 3-6 hours to run BOINC and then stop it forever (Computer-Lab)

should I setup and run BOINC on all computer?

Does it help community or mess the system?
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Re: Many computer but ...

Hi apeacezalt,

If only 4-6 hours runtime a day and not to loose too much progress closing the computer forever, you are best selecting the quick and small Genome Comparison project of WCG. They take 2 hours tops on modern computers, thus the loss would be little.

BOiNC is fine to run it on, but u need version 5.4.11. Find the software here: http://boinc.berkeley.edu/addons.php. U need to set up a BOiNC account in your profile first and remember that when u do the project connect to WCG to use the weblink: www.worldcommunitygrid.org.

More info on BOiNC: http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/help/viewTopic.do?shortName=bnc
Install instuctions for Windows: http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/ms/viewThankYouBoincWin.do
Install instructions (for Linux/Mac: https://secure.worldcommunitygrid.org/help/viewTopic.do?shortName=boinc
How to convert UD agent to BOiNC: http://www.wcgwiki.org/en/boinc/migration.cfm

Any CPU cycle helps and many small make one big.

Let us know

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Re: Many computer but ...

Sek, here's a crazy thought. if apeacezalt basically has a relatively steady number of machines available to run BOINC and, when it is shut down and "released", they pull a new one out of the box and crank it up, then what about transferring the BOINC directory in it's entirety from the "released" machine to the new one? Aside from the projects that have WU's with checkpoints always more than the 4-6 hours, they might be able to run a lot more of the WCG projects.
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Re: Many computer but ...

..... thing is, each time BOiNC server on interfacing will think its a new device and not knowing what is supposed to come or go. With sneaker-netting, it's already determined that you can have something crunched on one box, but it has to be returned by the original box that downloaded it. Think there'd be lots of scheming and managing required to even entertain that approach using a few permanent computers as the up/down-loaders. Time for ponder as each time a PC is closed permanently, it will have a unfinished WU delaying quorum.

For sure it is the best burn-in tool there is to have for new computers.
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Re: Many computer but ...

No Sek, the "temp" machines would never talk to the servers. Look at it basically this way. Master machine A would talk to the WCG server and get work. The project would then be suspended in BOINC on it and the entire directory moved to "temp" machine 1. "Temp" machine 1 would crunch on the WU's with network activity disabled in BOINC there. When that machine is ready to be shipped/assigned/etc., you'd suspend the project again in BOINC and move the BOINC directory back to master machine A. Any completed WUs would be returned to the servers from there and new ones downloaded if appropriate. Then you'd repeat the above with new "temp" machine 2 and so on. The temp machines would never need to connect to the internet which I bet would be a good thing. WCG would be "burn in" as you said. You wouldn't have "unfinished" WUs as the next temp machine would continue crunching the currently active WU. If you didn't have a temp machine at that moment - a gap - then the master would just continue the crunching.

One thought that I do have about this is that you may have to pay attention to the homogeneity of the temp machines that "work" with a given master machine. You want the master and temps to have similar benchmarks so that you don't end up returning outliers. I suspect though that apeacezalt probably is dealing with a fairly standard set of machine types so this wouldn't be difficult to deal with.
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Re: Many computer but ...

Okay, i admit, u had a crazy thought tongue

I've stricken the last sentence of my previous reply, as in sneaker-netting allows the carry forward to next machine, or carry back to master. Still a few masters won't work if many PC's are being cycled in that 4-6 hour frame they each get. Presuming they are also network tested, one could take a full installation of the master, carry it on mem stick to the test machines, do a project reset, re-register and let it work until close.... back to the short work units......

.... now it would be a great way to proliferate the BOiNC/WCG client to new PC owners/users.... leave it on and the moment it gets hooked up.... who knows. cool

Have a great weekend.
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