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I am new to this and have way too much money (as everyone knows LOL)  invested in supplies that just keep building up up and up and have not cut a thing - because I don't know where to start -- I have chipboard with scalloped edges - lots of it from 8x5 to 12 x 12 -- do I use that JUST FOR COVERS???  or do I glue the paper pages to it?? Also on a 12 x 12 is the paper strong enough to even hold a waterfall plus embellishments?  I want to do several waterfalls and the fold over covers - quadruple covers over the waterfall side to side and cover up from the bottom and down from the top so technically 8 large photomats will cover the waterfall of 6 smaller mats (with the back of each for journaling -- and I'm thinking it needs something stronger than just paper to support it?  Am I wrong? I don't want to do an envelope book yet - I like them but ..... is that a mistake? should I start with an envelope scrapbook - I really don't want to but will if y'all suggest I do so.  I know this is a REALLY dumb question or series of questions -- ALSO if the answer is glue paper to the chipboard do I need to scallop it to match the chipboard or cover the scallops with alcohol inks or some color that blends with the paper?

I've made mock ups of waterfalls and all sorts of other things with "trash" paper but at 99 cent, $1.49 I'm not cutting anything until I know what I'm doing LOL.  that's not true I've cut some patterns of flowers by Susan Tierney-Cockburn - I don't have the dies I just cut them by hand - that's the solid papers - but her flowers are AMAZING She is brilliant!!  My health is not going to keep me around a whole lot longer and I have promised scrapbooks out to relatives and doing this on social security is painful enough - sticker shock pun intended LOL and I KNOW FROM READING HERE that everyone knows what I mean .... and those stickles thingies??? OMG It's worse than a drug - I can't seem to place an order without getting 3, 4, 5  of them.  THANK ALL YOU REALLY WONDERFUL COOL SCRAPPERS for this board - being homebound I so enjoy reading it and am so inspired by your work - sorry I'm rambling

Welcome to the board. So sorry I am not much help I have never done chipboard albums.  Although I would love to try.   There are so many talented ladies here that I am sure they could give you some ideas.  As far as regular albums sometimes you have to jump into it and do it.  Good luck I am sure you will do a wonderful job.  I am sorry to hear about your health.

Welcome to ACOT!!! You've found a great place of friendly people and wonderful scrapbookers.

I'll see if I can help with your questions...

Yes, generally chipboard is used for covers of custom books although they can be used to reinforce the pages in the album you are making.  For me, it depends how thick the chipboard (really thick chipboard makes the album bulky) and how much the book is likely to be handled.  You can cover the chipboard with card stock, patterned paper, paint, stamping, or other types of embellishments.  

If I were using a scalloped edged chipboard I would either trim the paper to match that, use fine grain sand paper or nail file to smooth the edges then ink the edges with stamp ink or paint.  OR, I would paint/decorate the chipboard and cut my paper into a square so that it looks framed.

I'm not exactly sure what you are talking about with a waterfall.  Can you post a picture of your mock up in the gallery?   

It is my understanding that a waterfall album is one where the pages go from shorter to longer front to back.  So the top page may be 4 inches, the second page 5 inches, and so on.  There would be binding on one side which could be ribbon or binder rings put through holes you make or with a binding machine.  

If you are going to add a lot of heavy embellishments, you'll want to support the paper with chipboard.  If they are lighter, gluing the papers back to back or with a piece of cardstock in between should do the job.  

I totally agree about how fun it is to shop for scrapbook stuff! 

I hope some of this helps  

Again, welcome to the board and I think it's very sweet of you to spend your days doing this for relatives.  

 

I am intrigued by the waterfall.  I've never heard of it in scrapbooking.  I'll have to do a search and see if I can find some info.  

I usually suggest starting with a sketch - maybe you can find one that will work with the type of project you want to do.  Also - youtube tutorials.  You can usually find a tutorial on anything you need to know, so try doing a search there - you may find something that will inspire a great jumping off point.

I found several tutorials on you tube. I've seen these albums many times, but have never done one and didn't know they were called waterfalls. 

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_q ... k+tutorial

Hello! I too have never done a waterfall album, but for chipboard albums.....you can do whatever you want! Cover with paper or stamping or painting.

Make sure you use Mod Podge to glue the papers on the chipboard album. Its one tha will hold up pretty darn good. When the glue has dried (I like to let it dry overnight), then come back with some sand paper or something to slaw off the edges that might be overlapping. Once that is done, you can ink the edges or pain them.

ScrappyBug wrote:I found several tutorials on you tube. I've seen these albums many times, but have never done one and didn't know they were called waterfalls. 

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_q ... k+tutorial
 

Same here. We learn something new everyday!

Hi, and welcome!  I hear you on hoarding supplies.  I think most people in this hobby are like that, lol.

I think the others have answered your question on the chipboard and waterfall.  I would love to make some of those!  So many projects, so little time!

As for where to start, I'd choose a theme for the album, then choose papers accordingly.  Holidays and obvious themes (sports, seasons, travel, etc.) would be easy, but if it's everyday stuff, just go through your papers pulling colors and patterns that will go together.  Then, I'd choose and pull out embellies that would coordinate with the papers.  We sometimes call this page kits, but if you pull enough for your whole project, I guess it could be an album kit.

That might not be much help, but just wanted to encourage you.  If you have trouble matching papers or embellishments, post a pic, and any of us cherries could offer advice!  Hope you get started on your projects and don't worry too much about it--there's no wrong way to scrapbook!

While chipboard is perfect for covers, I've used chipboard pages in my scrapbook.  Just cut the paper slightly smaller (if 12x12, cut to about 11x11 or 10.5x10.5) and start building a page from there.  If it doesn't fit inside protector when finished, there are attachments you can stick on them that have reinforced album holes; or, just punch holes to match album.  When I've done this, I've used both sides of the chipboard with completely different designs and it worked fine.  I really liked having these in my album as something different here and there - that's not something for everyone.  But I really like different textures and sizes in my albums; and, people have said it makes it so much fun to go through them because you never know what to expect and it looks great.

THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH these are wonderful suggestions -- I have pulled a little bit of what everyone suggested and am READY TO CUT PAPER LOL ... I finally got my scor-pad yesterday I think I confused everyone with the waterfall - it's not the album one which I HAVE seen - it's a way of putting pictures IN the album you build a waterfall inside on one or more of the pages -- I did what blbabe suggested and decided on papers for each album and general embellishments for each - I've gone 3 Graphic 45s mixed with Weekend Market (I got that from thenonna as I too want each turn of the page to be new and interesting) and I did what several suggested and checked out youtube those were GREAT - Christine thanks for the advice on gluing the papers and choosing chipboard - ALL the suggestions are great and like I said I've pulled something from everyone, - if I do halfway decent I'll post pictures as I go along and will probably need more help - I feel like if I do folks here will be encouraging and offer positive criticism - I am SO GLAD the folks at Cherry suggested I come here - I have NEVER shopped anywhere that was so personal and personable!!! there is a LOT of experience here and I appreciate the time taken to answer my post!!!!  God bless all of y'all - you are so kind.

If you are just starting, why not consider just a 12x12 layout -- a piece of cardstock or pattern paper, then place photos and some embellishment and put it in a page protector.  Talking about how to start then talking about waterfalls and chipboards --- you've jumped from beginner to intermediate before you even start. (meant in the kindest of ways!)
How do you expect to bind the chipboard .. or keep it together? I know how to do bookbinding and create spines, etc., but it isn't beginner type stuff!