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Oh, Rudy. Really?
Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 7:53 am
by nene
WASHINGTON – Former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani set off a tempest about terrorism Friday with his claim that this nation "had no domestic attacks" under President George W. Bush.
Here's the full article link:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100109/ap_ ... WFuaW5vZG8-
Re: Oh, Rudy. Really?
Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 10:49 am
by AnnOminous
Dude should get checked for Alzheimer's!!!
9-11 was under Dubya. So was the shoe bomber. And the DC sniper (who might of really been trying to kill his ex-wife and it was just coincidence he was Muslim).
Re: Oh, Rudy. Really?
Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 11:17 am
by imwickedwitch
Politicians pi$$ me off. On both sides.
Re: Oh, Rudy. Really?
Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 12:37 pm
by Jenn Kellams
I think he meant after 9-11. Just didn't say it that way. I personally think it was a slip of the tongue.
The DC Sniper wasn't terrorism or a domestic "attack". That was some idiot just committing a criminal act. And as far as the show bomber. That dude was on a plane coming to the US. We didn't scan him in and allow him on a plane. This is also the case with the Christmas bomber on Obama's watch, so those equal each other out.
Re: Oh, Rudy. Really?
Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 1:19 pm
by LyndaKay
I must not comment on politicians!
I must not comment on politicians!
They ALL disappoint me.
Re: Oh, Rudy. Really?
Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 1:30 pm
by davsar
I guess this is a good reason not to listen to the news - I don't hear any of the criticisms slug across party lines. You would hope people could put aside differences and actually come up with solutions.
Re: Oh, Rudy. Really?
Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 2:25 pm
by AnnOminous
jjenni08 wrote:I think he meant after 9-11. Just didn't say it that way. I personally think it was a slip of the tongue.
The DC Sniper wasn't terrorism or a domestic "attack". That was some idiot just committing a criminal act. And as far as the show bomber. That dude was on a plane coming to the US. We didn't scan him in and allow him on a plane. This is also the case with the Christmas bomber on Obama's watch, so those equal each other out.
Nobody really knows the DC sniper's motives except for him and he's not talking.
You don't have to look internationally for terrorist attacks. The Animal Rights Activists have done plenty of property damage. They just haven't killed anybody. And how about that anti-abortion guy who shot the doctor in church? Those are all home grown terrorists.
Re: Oh, Rudy. Really?
Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 2:58 pm
by Jenn Kellams
AnnOminous wrote:jjenni08 wrote:I think he meant after 9-11. Just didn't say it that way. I personally think it was a slip of the tongue.
The DC Sniper wasn't terrorism or a domestic "attack". That was some idiot just committing a criminal act. And as far as the show bomber. That dude was on a plane coming to the US. We didn't scan him in and allow him on a plane. This is also the case with the Christmas bomber on Obama's watch, so those equal each other out.
Nobody really knows the DC sniper's motives except for him and he's not talking.
You don't have to look internationally for terrorist attacks. The Animal Rights Activists have done plenty of property damage. They just haven't killed anybody. And how about that anti-abortion guy who shot the doctor in church? Those are all home grown terrorists.
Although all of those incidents could "technically" be described as "terror"-ism, the term is generally reserved for use in politics, military, and war only. Any act of crime that is commited against civilians to invoke fear can be considered an act of terrorism. Used in the politics, military, and war way, there have generally speaking, been no terrorism acts domestically since 9-11.
The anti-abortion guy (in my opinion) did not do what he did to invoke fear into civilians. In my opinion he is just another wacky person, looking to express his opinions in a hurtful way rather than a rational way, like we are currently doing.
Re: Oh, Rudy. Really?
Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 3:13 pm
by Flasher
Dude, Rudy isn't the only one saying that. President Bush's former Press Secretary said the same thing back in November . . . that there were no terror attacks under President Bush.
I've had it with ALL politicians - from the very top right down to my local school board members.
Re: Oh, Rudy. Really?
Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 3:20 pm
by Jenn Kellams
Laura wrote:Dude, Rudy isn't the only one saying that. President Bush's former Press Secretary said the same thing back in November . . . that there were no terror attacks under President Bush.
I've had it with ALL politicians - from the very top right down to my local school board members.
Local school board members are sometimes more heinous than the top dogs! hehe It is BAD here!
Re: Oh, Rudy. Really?
Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 4:55 pm
by JDs Mom
What--is Rudy makin' a run for office again?!
Re: Oh, Rudy. Really?
Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 5:10 pm
by AnnOminous
jjenni08 wrote:AnnOminous wrote:jjenni08 wrote:I think he meant after 9-11. Just didn't say it that way. I personally think it was a slip of the tongue.
The DC Sniper wasn't terrorism or a domestic "attack". That was some idiot just committing a criminal act. And as far as the show bomber. That dude was on a plane coming to the US. We didn't scan him in and allow him on a plane. This is also the case with the Christmas bomber on Obama's watch, so those equal each other out.
Nobody really knows the DC sniper's motives except for him and he's not talking.
You don't have to look internationally for terrorist attacks. The Animal Rights Activists have done plenty of property damage. They just haven't killed anybody. And how about that anti-abortion guy who shot the doctor in church? Those are all home grown terrorists.
Although all of those incidents could "technically" be described as "terror"-ism, the term is generally reserved for use in politics, military, and war only. Any act of crime that is commited against civilians to invoke fear can be considered an act of terrorism. Used in the politics, military, and war way, there have generally speaking, been no terrorism acts domestically since 9-11.
The anti-abortion guy (in my opinion) did not do what he did to invoke fear into civilians. In my opinion he is just another wacky person, looking to express his opinions in a hurtful way rather than a rational way, like we are currently doing.
By your own definitions, what the animal rights activists such as ALF have done is terrorism. It is definitely political. They want laws changed - and changed big time. And if they can't get laws changed to prevent animal testing, for example, they will scare people into not doing it by damaging their homes and cars along with the labs.
Sure the anti-abortion guy was trying to envoke fear in civilians. He was trying to scare civilian doctors into not performing abortions. And women into not getting them.
Terrorism does not have to wear a turban.