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GGA
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Improve Cacti Interface Template

Post by GGA »

I have a rather strange effect on our cacti Server.
It monitors over 100 devices and two of them are interface intensive. I had to investigate because of its interface graph. Have a look at the file attached.
The effect seems to be based on a huge jitter. But I still don't know why this sometimes happen and sometimes not.
And only these two machines have that effect.

What I see, from the first to last snmp-get:
172315: 109817 1805893 741.394208 SOURCE -> DEST SNMP 86 get-request 1.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.2.1
....
227003: 2107022 790.623182 SOURCE -> DEST SNMP 89 get-request 1.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.2.9000001

Just all interfaces on one machine can take up 60 seconds.

Is there a way to speed up that interface template by bulkwalk or something similar?
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Re: Improve Cacati Interface Template

Post by micke2k »

settings -> poller -> The Maximum SNMP OIDs Per SNMP Get Request
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Re: Improve Cacati Interface Template

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thank you micke2k, I've already played with that option.
I think it depends on the devices snmpd load. Normally a run takes about 45 seconds (just for one device), but there are cases with 120 seconds.
And so I won't get a regular 5min window, I will get something like 5min, 5min, 7min, 3min, 5min and so on.
7min window will get a bigger peak and the next 3min a taller one.
I think I have to check the CMTS Templates.
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Re: Improve Cacati Interface Template

Post by micke2k »

What is your thread and poller settings?

Are you using cmd or spine?

Also if you bulkwalk it from the cactiserver does it still take 60 seconds?
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Re: Improve Cacati Interface Template

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Sorry for the late response. I'm using spine with following settings:
Maximum Concurrent Poller Processes=6
Maximum Threads per Process=12
Number of PHP Script Servers=8
The Maximum SNMP OID's Per SNMP Get Request=40

The device I'm polling is also monitored by a different service. Cacti starts polling every 5 minutes, a very clean and stable system. The second system need something between 15 and 10minutes. So there are cases, where both systems start polling my device at the same time. And then, every cacti answer takes a little bit longer.
If only cacti is polling the device it takes around 90s.
If both monitoring systems are polling at the same time, cacti polling can take up to 200s.
And my network interfaces seem to get at the end of such a polling circle.

Is there a way to change the polling order within a device?
If I could request first interfaces and then the rest I would never have those peaks.
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Re: Improve Cacati Interface Template

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Try increasing number of threads and lowering numbers of OID to get.

I dont think you can change in which order it polls.
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Re: Improve Cacti Interface Template

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Changing amount of processes, threads ans so on didn't help.

I tried an other way. I've added my device a second time and only for my 10Gig Interfaces.
So that second device starts monitoring exactly every 5 minutes.
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Re: Improve Cacti Interface Template

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Please post your SystemStats line in the log for the last 100 polls.

See the number 298 anywhere?
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Re: Improve Cacti Interface Template

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298? Why should I see it there? Or even better, what should it stand for?

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Re: Improve Cacti Interface Template

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04/09/2016 02:45:00 AM - SYSTEM STATS: Time:298.3981 Method:spine Processes:6 Threads:12 Hosts:117 HostsPerProcess:20 DataSources:16229 RRDsProcessed:6059
Your poller doesnt finish within 5 minutes, this gives graphs in graphs.

Can you increase Threads?
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Re: Improve Cacti Interface Template

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Did I but it does not help.
Min pollertime is still the same and those lags are still there.
Best if I could organize all requests from one device, first interfaces and then absolut values like temperature, amount of cust-devices or signal power.
First time-dependent and then non-time-dependent.
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Re: Improve Cacti Interface Template

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Back to your original request:

Yes, you could speed up the requests, by creating a script based query and caching the data. E.g. do a snmpwalk over the device data which you want to be displayed, then store that in a cache. Next you can go and read the data from cache to be presented to Cacti.

This usually speeds up the data retrieval part significantly.
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Re: Improve Cacti Interface Template

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Thank you two for your answers. I will keep the script based solution in mind.
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