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Former Member
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Inositol Hexaphosphate has been shown in a few studies to act as an antioxidant and (if taken in very large quantities) possibly protect against colon & breast cancer.
----------------------------------------A wide vareity of food-based antioxidants (green tea, berries, red wine, pomegranate juice, olive oil, etc.) is a better option for possibly preventing cancers rather than a supplement (although I stress that while the studies are promising for these foods and have been shown to reduce the statistical incidence of cancers in some groups, they are far from conclusive). [Edit 1 times, last edit by Former Member at Oct 22, 2006 4:11:17 AM] |
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Former Member
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So... iron chelation helps fight cancer?
I was under the impression that this was generally unhealthy. Tannin, which is found in tea (particularly black and oolong, also green) will chelate iron out of the body. This is one of the reasons tea should not be given to infants and given to children only in small amounts (then preferably green or white). My personal opinion... The Western (particularly USA) diet is so unhealthy due to the large amounts of chemicals, saturated fats, bleached sugars & flours, and HFCS, that any significant addition of a natural nutrition source rich in nutrients and antioxidants will show a marked improvement in health. It's not that rice brand, goji berries, acai berries, white tea, reishi, noni, or any of the miracle foods are truly miraculous. (They may be excellent additions to the diet; I'm not discounting that.) It's the simple fact that something good is replacing something bad, and the body can begin to function as it normally should. I'm also not discounting that some foods have pharmaceutical value. I'm just saying eating reasonably healthy and curbing the fast/junk food would have far more value than adding a few pills of rice brand, reishi, tea extract, or some berry raised by an order of monks at a single monestary deep in the Mongolian plateau. |
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So... iron chelation helps fight cancer? I was under the impression that this was generally unhealthy. Tannin, which is found in tea (particularly black and oolong, also green) will chelate iron out of the body. This is one of the reasons tea should not be given to infants and given to children only in small amounts (then preferably green or white). My personal opinion... The Western (particularly USA) diet is so unhealthy due to the large amounts of chemicals, saturated fats, bleached sugars & flours, and HFCS, that any significant addition of a natural nutrition source rich in nutrients and antioxidants will show a marked improvement in health. It's not that rice brand, goji berries, acai berries, white tea, reishi, noni, or any of the miracle foods are truly miraculous. (They may be excellent additions to the diet; I'm not discounting that.) It's the simple fact that something good is replacing something bad, and the body can begin to function as it normally should. I'm also not discounting that some foods have pharmaceutical value. I'm just saying eating reasonably healthy and curbing the fast/junk food would have far more value than adding a few pills of rice brand, reishi, tea extract, or some berry raised by an order of monks at a single monestary deep in the Mongolian plateau. I agree the Western diet is very unhealthy (trans fats much moreso than saturated fats though, IMO). HFCS & refined sugars/flours are ridiculously high in glycemic index and are one of the causes of the obesity epidemic. Eating reasonably healthy AND adding just a few "superfoods" with high antioxidant value is what I do (tea, prunes, wine, dark chocolate, and coffee - no pills just things I like to eat/drink). For any of you who are interested, here are common fruits/vegetables rated by their antioxidant (ORAC) rating (I know the link isn't quite the National Institute of Health, but the ORAC ratings are the correct values): http://optimalhealth.cia.com.au/OracLevels.htm [Edit 2 times, last edit by Former Member at Oct 22, 2006 6:47:22 AM] |
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Bill Thorpe
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This looks like a straightforward advertisement to me.
IP6 buy it now!! ... is all it says. |
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Former Member
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Iron overload is probably a problem is many american, especially men. The body has no way of getting rid of it - it can only bind it using ferritin (women lose blood and hence iron during their period, men don't normally lose blood).
Once that binding system has been exhausted, then you start having problems. Free iron in cells generate free radicals, which are nasty and attack everything from cell membranes, to proteins, to DNA (which is the reason why it is probably linked to cancer). Wanna FREE way of getting rid of excess iron??? DONATE BLOOD TO THE RED CROSS (or any similar agency) It would be nice if it did cure/slow cancer, but it sure saves lives. Oh, and men should only take iron-free multi-vitamins. They are kinda hard to find, though. I get mine from CVS (no financial affiliations) - they have a Mens Multi, and some of their Senior Spectrum don't have iron either. |
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So... iron ........The Western (particularly USA) diet is so unhealthy due to the large amounts of chemicals, saturated fats, bleached sugars & flours, and HFCS, that any significant addition of a natural nutrition source rich in nutrients and antioxidants will show a marked improvement in health. . . . . . . . .. . . . . . . antioxidant (ORAC) rating (I know the link isn't quite the National Institute of Health, but the ORAC ratings are the correct values): http://optimalhealth.cia.com.au/OracLevels.htm Looks like we need to start a section named Fight Deseases From Home (FDFH) and contribute some great ideas to improve member's health :>) |
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Hi All.
I'm frankly amazed by the post regarding excess iron. I'm not saying it's wrong cause I don't know. My belief till now, has been that the way in which food crops are grown in the modern age makes it almost impossible to consume enough 'good' foodstuffs to have a healthy diet. I have seen many studies over the years showing the nutritional deficiencies in our food. Many of them concentrating on things like spinach which has apparently lost something in the order of 97% of its iron content per serve over the past 50 years. These studies may be biased or as bogus as the so called studies into side draught smoking effects but how does one know? Cheers. ozylynx  |
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My belief till now, has been that the way in which food crops are grown in the modern age makes it almost impossible to consume enough 'good' foodstuffs to have a healthy diet. I have seen many studies over the years showing the nutritional deficiencies in our food. Many of them concentrating on things like spinach which has apparently lost something in the order of 97% of its iron content per serve over the past 50 years. Yes that is certainly the case. We can thank modern agriculture (over-using land w/o crop rotation), GMOs, and pesticides for that. Personally, I shop organic as much as I can (but I know it's not always affordable or easy for everyone). Even eating the most balanced diet with a variety of organic fruits & veggies (which have higher mineral content due to crop rotation/better soil/etc), it's difficult to get all the RDAs (or more) for all of the vitamins/minerals. Much easier to pop a pill or two and then eat some high ORAC foods  |
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Sgt.Joe
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All in all, quite an interesting discussion. I believe our food supply is better than it has ever been. Was it not Aristotle who gave the thought about "moderation in all things." Very good advice when it comes to food. Don't eat too much, eat a good variety of all the food groups, especially fruits and vegetables. Get an adequate supply of protein. Stay active and get off off your chair and walk around, get some exercise. Don't be afraid to to have the occasional pie, ice cream, chocolate etc., but don't over do it. Western agriculture has given us an overabundance of good things to eat so temptation is everywhere.
----------------------------------------Don't be afraid to get your hands dirty from a young age. It shows you are willing to work and it will help strengthen your immune system. Learn and practice good hygiene, wash those dirty hands before you eat. Use common sense and don't do foolish things, or if you do foolish things know and assess the risks involved so you can minimize accidents. This whole discussion could revolve around the environment versus genetics controversy. Hopefully some of this basic reasearch will help us to answer the questions of what is best for us to live long and healthy lives. And finally realize that despite everyone's best efforts, we all grow old and die sometime. Cheers Sgt.Joe Minnestoa Crunchers
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