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A riddle from Samuel Wilberforce, Bishop of Oxford -- ANSWER NOW REVEALED.

I came across some olds papers including my answer in a riddle contest by Omni Magazine back in 1980, and I thought some of you might want to give this a try. Back then the riddle was over a century old and was still not known to be solved yet; I solved it biggrin along with 20 other contestants. I'll post the answer in a few days. Here is the riddle:

I'm the loudest of voices in orchestra heard
But yet in an orchestra never was seen;
I'm a bird of gay plumage, but less like a bird
Nothing in Nature ever has been.
Touching earth I expire, in water I die,
In earth I lose breath. I can swim, I can fly.
Darkness destroys me and light is my death;
I can't keep alive without stopping my breath.
If my name can't be guessed by a boy or a man,
By a girl or a woman it certainly can.

Edit to add this note: Slapshot has asked, in the very next reply, if he should post his answer and possibly spoil the fun for others. That's fine, but I wanted to add this warning here that if you want to try solving the riddle yourself without inadvertently seeing the answer somewhere in this thread, you are welcome to email me directly at billvelek at alltel.net with the subject line "riddle", and I'll let you know if you are correct or not. That way you can still give it another try if you're wrong. Or you can post your answers here in this thread and I'll tell you if you're wrong without posting the answer. That way we can give folks some time to work on this.

Edit #2: Don't cheat devilish by doing a google search or you'll find my answer.

Bill Velek
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Re: A riddle from Samuel Wilberforce, Bishop of Oxford

I came across some olds papers including my answer in a riddle contest by Omni Magazine back in 1980, and I thought some of you might want to give this a try. Back then the riddle was over a century old and was still not known to be solved yet; I solved it biggrin along with 20 other contestants. I'll post the answer in a few days. Here is the riddle:

I'm the loudest of voices in orchestra heard
But yet in an orchestra never was seen;
I'm a bird of gay plumage, but less like a bird
Nothing in Nature ever has been.
Touching earth I expire, in water I die,
In earth I lose breath. I can swim, I can fly.
Darkness destroys me and light is my death;
I can't keep alive without stopping my breath.
If my name can't be guessed by a boy or a man,
By a girl or a woman it certainly can.

Cheers.

Bill Velek



Hi Bill

Do you want me to post the answer as it's a bit of a killer ( Get it AXE biggrin ) mate or should we wait to see if anyone gets it.

( I'm not just a pretty face you know )

Cheers

Edit to this post. Bill check your e-mail mate. I think I'm right, in fact I'm 90% certain but please can you verify.

Thank you
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Re: A riddle from Samuel Wilberforce, Bishop of Oxford

Do you want me to post the answer as it's a bit of a killer ( Get it AXE biggrin ) mate or should we wait to see if anyone gets it.

I've just edited my post to change the riddle laughing ... heh, heh ... nahhhh, but rather to tell folks that they can check with me privately, if they want -- billvelek at alltel.net. Or else ... just go ahead and fire away here, because they've been warned, and then I'll tell you if you are right or wrong.

Cheers.

Bill Velek
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Re: A riddle from Samuel Wilberforce, Bishop of Oxford

would it be, could it be, might it be something to do with Beer?

Old dutch saying: When beer is in man, brain is in can.
Another old Dutch saying: It's fighting against the beer-quay
Yet another Dutch saying: Empty (beer) vessels belch loudest.

(latter made up, but who's to know laughing )
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Re: A riddle from Samuel Wilberforce, Bishop of Oxford

Sorry, but it has nothing to do with beer.

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Re: A riddle from Samuel Wilberforce, Bishop of Oxford

HEHEHE,
I'm not one to spoil a darned good riddle Bill so just refer to the edit on my first post biggrin . Now the entire WCG is watching with bated breath,. I hope I'm not wrong.

Cheers
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Re: A riddle from Samuel Wilberforce, Bishop of Oxford

HEHEHE,
I'm not one to spoil a darned good riddle Bill so just refer to the edit on my first post biggrin . Now the entire WCG is watching with bated breath,. I hope I'm not wrong.

Cheers

You are absolutely correct, Slapshot -- in record time -- but we'll save the answer for awhile. My hat is off to you for getting it so quickly. I guess computer gaming hasn't turned your brain to mush afterall. laughing

Check your email, and you'll see why I said my answer is KICK-AXE. devilish

Cheers.

Bill Velek
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Re: A riddle from Samuel Wilberforce, Bishop of Oxford

Just got your mail Bill

Yes what an answer. Very poetic I must say. I can now see where the gaps were, and how you answered it. I think you were spot on, I can see the reference to the pre 1010 Anglo Saxon comment and agree entirely as to the maturity of the point in question, It does say that in 2 references for that period. You were ripped off mate. Also the keep alive one I missed, I almost had that but was going a bit too deep for it.
I must say I was impressed by the writing Bill, and your's has filled in more gaps than Mr. Wilberforce's

Excellent
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Re: A riddle from Samuel Wilberforce, Bishop of Oxford

snip ... Also the keep alive one I missed, I almost had that but was going a bit too deep for it.

Another great play on words, Slapshot. biggrin

Thanks for the glowing compliments. blushing - BLUSH!

Cheers.

Bill Velek
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Re: A riddle from Samuel Wilberforce, Bishop of Oxford

My wife thinks it's lightning.
But I don't see how it ties in with the last sentence. confused
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