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Johnny Cool
Ace Cruncher USA Joined: Jul 28, 2005 Post Count: 8621 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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Any reason why Bok has problems with getting stats here?
----------------------------------------http://stats.free-dc.org/new/projpage.php?proj=wcg As many DC projects that they (Free DC-Stats) check stats for, Bok has problems with WCG. Why is that? This is very difficult to do anything about unless they provided some form of stats in a text/csv/xml form like almost every other project out there. ---------------------------------------- [Edit 1 times, last edit by Johnny Cool at Sep 5, 2006 3:54:20 AM] |
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Sekerob
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Johnny Cool, Guess your friend BOK been looking with eyes wide shut......if u visit at the Want to see your current boincstats easy? thread, u see that in the meantime even an extension was upgraded for Firefox that adds the WCG BOINC points and RAC real time, so the access in a usable format is there. Many BOINC stat sites pick up WCG BOINC data.....here's the WCG stats for Free-DC by person and summary for team
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Johnny Cool
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Johnny Cool, Guess your friend BOK been looking with eyes wide shut......if u visit at the Want to see your current boincstats easy? thread, u see that in the meantime even an extension was upgraded for Firefox that adds the WCG BOINC points and RAC real time, so the access in a usable format is there. Many BOINC stat sites pick up WCG BOINC data.....here's the WCG stats for Free-DC by person and summary for team http://stats.kwsn.net/team.php?proj=wcg&teamid=408 Work done with UD agent is not included...they are not converted to BOINC points and should not...it's BOINC stats ciao Hmmm, thinking of that "Can You Hear Me Now" advert from a major cell phone provider here in the USA. LOL! Ah, yes. Boinc stats .... http://boinc.mundayweb.com/stats/teams.php?view=5567&prj=14 Yes, we do have those. Most of our Team Mates use Boinc. Yet, some do not. And those Boinc stats are meaningless for those who do not use Boinc (the majority of Teams / Team Mates here at WCG or do not not participate in other Boinc DC projects). I suggest that *the WCG folks* check out the Free-DC forums where I have asked about this: http://www.free-dc.org/forum/ STATS - Bugs or Feature Requests Oddities with Stats http://www.free-dc.org/forum/showthread.php?t=11504 The Free-DC stats are still borked. According to the stats (if you can see them as I did a short time ago), our Team had roughly 7.5 Million points today. Well then, can you hear me now? LOL! ---------------------------------------- [Edit 3 times, last edit by Johnny Cool at Sep 6, 2006 1:20:21 AM] |
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Former Member
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Just thought I'd toss a few cents in, in case it's unclear what JC is asking for...
----------------------------------------Right now, if you were to set up a website that tracks WCG users overall stats(not the BOINC only), there is no simple way to do it. WCG does provide raw stats for individual users, however if you wanted to track EVERYONE, like those BOINC statpages do, there is no way to do it. You can somewhat track your team's stats by downloading and parsing the html team stat pages, which gets kinda messy. This seems to be the method Free-DC uses (request your team to be added, then it knows to download that team's stats). But....occaisionally when you're trying to view your team stat page here at WCG, it times out...same when Free-DC tries accessing the team stat page. Which causes trouble for stat aggregator sites like Free-DC - if it times out when it attempts to access it, then it can't update stats. WCG isn't completely lacking in the area of raw stats - you can get your individual stats via RSS feed, which works much nicer then parsing html pages. However, for the purpose of sites like Free-DC, there is no easy method to get stats....and the current method doesn't work well since the WCG stat pages occaisionally time out. edited for clarity... [Edit 2 times, last edit by Former Member at Sep 6, 2006 5:00:22 AM] |
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Sekerob
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Well Mousie, hmmm, yes i peeked at the JC linked Free-DC stats before, which look like partial, but BOINCish, hence. A number of members at our team wrote/maintain code to extract all daily/cumulative data automatically from WCG, for teams/members. The WCG stats seq, are published daily by a member who feels he's got something to say here http://gathering.tweakers.net/forum/list_messages/1158858 including hyperlinks to any members stats at WCG .....I'm sure many other teams have them too in different flavours.
----------------------------------------ciao Added: See Scribe also provides link to WCG stats for Free-DC in his second link, so it seems Free-DC has the knowledge in house.
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Former Member
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Yes, they do already have in house knowledge, and have code that will extract the stats. That is not the problem. The problem is, sometimes when they (or anyone) tries to access member stats (for example: here), the server times out. If the server times out when they try to retrieve stats, then they can't extract them. Many times, it will display correctly, but sometimes it will time out.
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Sekerob
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Ah Mousie, the root-reason/cause of the question.....yes we had that at times until some real nifty coder set the time-out to a real far-out number.....now they're zooming.
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Dark Angel
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I just checked the stats. They're still borked. Free-DC couldn't get them again today (my time).
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Former Member
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There are a few known issues here:
The stats pages don't time out. However, there is a bug that sometimes loses the team information when you click on a link like the one above. This is being addressed. The other thing is that the stats are unavailable during stats updates and certain maintenance work. As the stats runs take longer due to our expanding membership, some tools which are set to grab the stats as soon as the run is complete are failing simply because the statistics aren't worked out yet. The good news is that the statistics system will be completely redesigned some time soon. In addition to making it faster and more efficient, the tireless WCG techs will add a proper export capability for WCG individual and team stats, similar to the BOINC system (but hopefully even better). So, have patience and watch this space. |
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