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Thread: Update 'reference' PC to allow for more modern processors/machines |
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Former Member
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ok, my second suggestion is..
to note that that the reference pc - a Pentium 1.5Ghz machine is somewhat out of date. I don't know know the inner workings of the credit calc system so for all I know this is not a big deal at all.. just simply noting that it was obviously setup several years ago and has dated compared to modern boxes. cheers ewart |
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Sekerob
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 Don't fix, what's not broken
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retsof
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A modern machine; what's that? One of my systems is a Pentium III/500 MHz happily crunching on HPF. It's running 1/3 as fast as the reference machine, and sends in a workunit every 1 to 5 days.
----------------------------------------I got a telephone call yesterday telling me to push "1" for something. That was not available on this dial phone. Our phone company still charges extra for modern pushbuttons. Good news: The 3% Federal Excise telephone tax to pay for the Spanish American War is going away in July.
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David Autumns
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Ewart this is the post you are looking for
----------------------------------------http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/forums/wcg/viewthread?thread=1505 Even this is now outdated what with the arrival of BOINC which uses a completely different method to allocate points. I'm a tad older and greyer too Dave  |
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Thanks for that reference Dave, made interesting reading, even if it is out of date! yours is the best answer :)
I guess my feature suggestion for developers therefore becomes: "make the points system more publically transparent and recognise those modern machines that are crunching more data more fairly" (ie: without the cap they talked about, if it still exists). retsof, my machine takes about 6 hours on average to crunch a workunit, it's dual core and on about 16-18 hours a day so I guess it returns about 5-6 units per day, whatever that means.. it is a Pentium D805 2.66Ghz overclocked to 3.5Ghz. (those CPU's are only $150 USD!) still not fast enough for me though :) lol I'd love a clovertown quad core xeon when they come out next year, yeah baby, maybe in _3_ years I can afford one secondhand! cheers ewart |
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retsof
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retsof, my machine takes about 6 hours on average to crunch a workunit, it's dual core and on about 16-18 hours a day so I guess it returns about 5-6 units per day, whatever that means.. [workunits] it is a Pentium D805 2.66Ghz overclocked to 3.5Ghz. (those CPU's are only $150 USD!) I was having fun with the low end of my crunching garden. I also have 3 2.4GHz AMD machines that are running FA@H at about 5.5 hours each. (1: 2.4GHz; 2: 2.4GHz OC to 2.45GHz, 55 degrees C CPU; 3: a better overclocker, 2.0GHz OC to 2.4GHz and cooler, 47 degrees C CPU) One can send 5-6 units/day each if crunching for 24 hours on this project. I tested a few projects and I am running five projects at the moment, three different ones on each fast machine. I can do a workunit on one project in 11 minutes. Other projects split out among three machines are three different climate modelers. They are brutes. The longest workunits take over two months to run (based on these machines) ... but you have 11 months on one project and 19 months on another to return them. Those are not fodder for slow machines. I'm giving them a few hours per day. This doesn't say more about the topic .... changing the standard machine. I haven't decided which way to go ... except that some fast machines might run up against the cap of 300% of the standard machine used in the UD interface, an argument for changing it. BOINC takes whetstone and dhrystone benchmarks, so the standard UD machine may not apply there. (I'm not sure.) BOINC points are awarded on an average anyway. Someday we will look for that 16-18 hours to expand to 24.  I hope both sides of the machine are crunching.
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Sekerob
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Wow, i would not want to have your e-bill converted to Italian pricing.....see the thread on "Powerful cost of energy"....hope WCG is not their only function in life, however philantropic your contributions are
---------------------------------------- I'm happy enough with my >4 year old Shuttle SS51G Hyperthreaded 2.53 ghz box 1gb DDR2 ram, doing 200 w/h, which manages about 2.66 FAAH per day, which just about gives slightly over 1k points average...... I guess we're all on BOINC 5.4.9 now to squeeze out the last point.....the 2.66 WU daily is exactly double from the 1.33 i did on UD agent.
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retsof
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Wow, i would not want to have your e-bill converted to Italian pricing.....see the thread on "Powerful cost of energy"....hope WCG is not their only function in life, however philantropic your contributions are It's not too bad but I have to set the air conditioning about a degree lower in the summertime. During spring and autumn I can simply open the windows and the e-bill is not a concern. Multiple computers are an advantage during winter. The newer machines are noticeable, but don't run that hot. I had an AMD 1GHz that was a real blast furnace, and I got rid of it.I guess we're all on BOINC 5.4.9 now to squeeze out the last point.....the 2.66 WU daily is exactly double from the 1.33 i did on UD agent. Yes, there are other things happening on these computers. I only have one dedicated cruncher. Since BOINC points are awarded on an average basis, you have the advantage if you have the faster computer. The slowest computer takes a loss.
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