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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
I have this installed on ~20 machines (client 5.2.13), 3 of them wont download and have ready to run more than 5 jobs while the others have at least 15. I tried changing Connect to network about every from 5 ---> 10 ---> 20 days to no avail. These machine go through 5 in less than 2 days and they are disconnected from the network, so I want them to have something to do the extra day or so before can get them back online. If I click Update to get more work, it says Not sending work - last RPC too recent.
Systems specs - P4 2GHz / 512MB RAM |
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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
You are changing the correct setting.
As far as I can tell, the problem arises because the client sends a scheduler request, and gets the new preferences. The new preferences force it to immediately contact the scheduler again, but BOINC has a limiter to prevent misuse. So you get the error. Try again after 10 minutes. Or just leave it - BOINC should back off the scheduler request and retry after a safe interval. |
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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
This has been happening for months...doesnt make sense. My slowest machine (P3 900MHz) has 19 ready to run. I wish we had more control
I left those 3 connected to the network overnight...Ill check them again in the morning. |
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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
Hi ParoxysM,
I assume that you are on dialup or something similar. You can get all the back-and-forth accomplished quickly on one call if you have it set to something like 'communicate every .001 days'. When you start increasing the delay to several days, the back-and-forth slows down enormously. Patience. Lawrence |
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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
ParoxysM, I am no longer sure exactly what you want.
Setting the connect value to extremely large or small values will have unwanted side-effects. It is best to set it to a value which reflects the minimum time you want to be able to go between connects. For example, if you are connected continuously, the default 0.1 works well. If you need to be able to run overnight or over a weekend, then set it to 0.5 - 3. Use higher values with extreme caution. 19 work units is a lot of work units for a single machine. With this many, you are in danger of missing the work unit deadline. I don't think BOINC will send work units that it estimates will miss the deadline, so this may explain why you're not getting quite as much work as you anticipated. Also, the estimated run times are not always accurate. However, on average they should be close enough. You should plan on connecting crunchers at least every week, ideally more often. Less than this will cause problems with deadlines. |
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retsof
Former Community Advisor USA Joined: Jul 31, 2005 Post Count: 6824 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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This has been happening for months...doesnt make sense. My slowest machine (P3 900MHz) has 19 ready to run. I wish we had more control I wonder whether that is one of the disadvantages of slow machines -- The fast ones blast out a BOINC quorum of 4 and anything else trying to run that same workunit could be too late. 19 does seem like a very large pile of waiting work for a slow machine. It must still be set on 20 days. That's extremely close to the 3 week limit. You may be compounding the problem if you have a power outage and workunits can't be completed. Each fast AMD machine here with the connection profile set to 2.0 days seems to have between 5 and 10 workunits sitting around most of the time. They are finishing 4-5 workunits per day each, so that's about right. I'm getting points for them, also, so I'm part of the mix. I left those 3 connected to the network overnight...Ill check them again in the morning.Yes, it just delays things if you request a random update. Wait for something to finish and then connect to the network. If the transfer has a delay since it was previously trying and backed out, you can retry each upload dataset. The upload will get done and "ready to report". Update the project. A result will be reported, and optionally there will be some work to send you. Check the message log. I don't get new work after sending every result. Downloads only happen sometimes. FAAH also uses tiny files that don't take long to upload/download. I can grab a new workunit on dialup in a couple of minutes. The HPF files are killers, and it takes a whole evening to replace a few workunits.
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Former Member
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19 work units is a lot of work units for a single machine. With this many, you are in danger of missing the work unit deadline. I don't think BOINC will send work units that it estimates will miss the deadline, so this may explain why you're not getting quite as much work as you anticipated. Also, the estimated run times are not always accurate. However, on average they should be close enough. You should plan on connecting crunchers at least every week, ideally more often. Less than this will cause problems with deadlines. Some of my machines avg 12-15 per day...Ill never miss a deadline :) |
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Sekerob
Ace Cruncher Joined: Jul 24, 2005 Post Count: 20043 Status: Offline |
@ParoxysM, suggest you make a table of settings for each machine and include which device profile set on WCG-BOINC applies to each of the machines. Are they all using the same (the default you set at WCG e.g.). Speculating, if machines are going thru at 12-15 WU's a day, yet you have the profile set for 20 days, you wont get work.....but that makes no sense, since my observation is, that if you are threatning to run out of work, BOINC will fetch a new one anyway (if it can get connected!!!!!!).
----------------------------------------@ All others...had that RPC report once, this very morning. Anticipated WU finishing 5 minutes before 06:00 UTC, hit the Project update button 9 minutes before 06:00 UTC. The WU product got uploaded 05:56 UTC, then the below came back.....WCG still included the result as it was send before said 6 hourly update and validated in a minute. Immediately after the 600 second compulsary wait, a new WU was fetched, as the last WU had just started at 05:57. 11-5-2006 8:01:21|World Community Grid|Scheduler request succeeded 11-5-2006 8:01:21|World Community Grid|Message from server: Not sending work - last RPC too recent: 545 sec Long short, all i think is fine. I just hit the project update button, because only then will BOINC seemingly fetch the scores and update the graphs. Main difference maybe, my machine is on net 24/7 (and behind 4 layers of firewalling, antivirus, antispy/antisnoop, should any hacker get notions).
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knreed
Former World Community Grid Tech Joined: Nov 8, 2004 Post Count: 4504 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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I have this installed on ~20 machines (client 5.2.13), 3 of them wont download and have ready to run more than 5 jobs while the others have at least 15. I tried changing Connect to network about every from 5 ---> 10 ---> 20 days to no avail. These machine go through 5 in less than 2 days and they are disconnected from the network, so I want them to have something to do the extra day or so before can get them back online. If I click Update to get more work, it says Not sending work - last RPC too recent. Systems specs - P4 2GHz / 512MB RAM I just looked through all of your systems and all have more the 5 workunits assigned to them. Can you give me the computer id for the machines you are not getting more workunits for? You can find this at the top of the messages in the messages tab. I would encourage you to only set the 'Connect to network' setting to min that you actually need. If you have a genuine then by all means set it to what you need. However, if you don't need it then what happens is that a high setting increases the disk usage on the servers (b/c we cannot take work off the grid until all the results are back) and it can delay the awarding of points to other users. |
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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
*update*
I left the machines connected to the LAN overnight and they all obtained a ton of work...w00t!! Im going to leave my settings where they are for a week and back it down if I see an issues. Thanks for the input and help to lower my rank - Current Ranking: 185 |
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