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C'mon you Bravehearts!

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Aw, heck. I thought you were really going to rally the Scots against the HomeBrewers to give us a run for the money. Thought maybe you'd tell them all that King Edward the Longshanks was a HomeBrewer. laughing

Well let me tell you that the thing I have against the Scots is that you make scotch. And scotch is made with barley. And barley is used for beer. So you folks are driving up my homebrewing costs, dangnabit. wink

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I shouldn't worry, Bill. You have to be in Scotland to make scotch - otherwise is is that inferior product you make on your side of the Atlantic - now what do they call it? Sour mash? Something like that that...
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I shouldn't worry, Bill. You have to be in Scotland to make scotch - otherwise is is that inferior product you make on your side of the Atlantic - now what do they call it? Sour mash? Something like that that...

Heh, heh. I don't know what kind of swill that you made over there before we started making whiskey over here, but I'm sure we've helped you improve it a lot. You do know that scotch -- made in Scotland -- is aged in old whiskey barrels that come from the U.S., don't you? Yep! When we're finished with the barrels here, we ship them to Scotland for aging scotch. Now, I don't know if you all do that because our old barrels improve the flavor of your scotch, or if you do it because it's cheaper. laughing That's a hard one to figure out, considering the reputation that you all have for pinching the penny. laughing

As for what we make here that is authentic: in its early years, the U.S. made a lot of hard cider (from apple juice) and rum from molasses that was shipped up the coast from the carribean, and we made a lot of rye (don't ask me why; it doesn't taste that good, and I wouldn't think rye would necessarily be a better crop than, let's say, corn). But George Washington made a LOT of rye whiskey. When the U.S. started to tax whiskey so high (causing the 'whiskey rebellion'), many farmers moved down to the remoter areas of Kentucky and Tennessee where they were pretty much out of the reach of the government (referred to as 'revenuers'). Now, I might have Kentucky and Tennessee mixed up, but one of those states has much higher limestone deposits, which affects the water, so one of them makes regular 'burbon' and the other makes 'sour mash' -- both of which are made from corn. I guess those are essentially considered as American (U.S.) liquors. Mexico makes Tequilla from a native plant, and Canada is noted for its 'blended whiskeys', which are very good. That covers this side of the pond, although there are no doubt some distilleries that make vodka and gin, too. I think vodka is made generally from potatoes, so you'd think it would be a big Irish drink, but it's considered best from Russia, etc. I don't know what the heck gin is made from, except that a lot of seasonings are added, such as juniper berries, IIRC. It was real big in England at one time (maybe still is), but I don't know if it originated there. Brandy, of course, is made from wine. But the best drink of all is good old BEER or ALE. cool Now, most of what is brewed in the U.S. is a variety called 'pilsner' (a lager), which can be good. But homebrewers usually make ales of different sorts that can rival the best in Europe and elsewhere.

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Re: C'mon you Bravehearts!


Heh, heh. I don't know what kind of swill that you made over there before we started making whiskey over here, but I'm sure we've helped you improve it a lot. You do know that scotch -- made in Scotland -- is aged in old whiskey barrels that come from the U.S., don't you?

Cheers.

Bill Velek



Actually most Malt Whisky's are made from Oak cask/barrels from Spain if truth be told laughing
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Bill (?) you're fighting a brave fight and we Scots respect that but c'mon, have you ever wallowed in the luxury of a dram of Glenmorangie or The Macallan (aged in port or sherry casks)? You're home brews are an admirable attempt in the art of alcohol but please! Might I refer you to a salute to the noble art from your own side of the pond? http://www.smwsa.com/
I enjoy a Jack Daniels and even a well tempered home brew but, be honest, you cannot...oh! enough said, just get some of the Uisge Beatha down you and come back with your opinion.
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Heh, heh. I don't know what kind of swill that you made over there before we started making whiskey over here, but I'm sure we've helped you improve it a lot. You do know that scotch -- made in Scotland -- is aged in old whiskey barrels that come from the U.S., don't you?

Cheers.

Bill Velek

Actually most Malt Whisky's are made from Oak cask/barrels from Spain if truth be told laughing

Well, snowdog, that might or might not be true; I have no personal knowledge, so I must reply on what I have been told. What is the source of your information? My source is a film from the Discovery Channel on TV that I've watched several times, and I think I might even have it taped somewhere. I don't think they have any reason to lie, and I'm absolutely positive that I'm not mistaken as to what they said on the program.

As for the casks/barrels from Spain, have they been used to make other liquor before being sent to Scotland?

Cheers.

Bill Velek
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... a dram of Glenmorangie or The Macallan (aged in port or sherry casks)? ... just get some of the Uisge Beatha down you and come back with your opinion.

I'm not much of a drinker besides beer; the names that you've mentioned -- are they different brands of Scotch? I've had Scotch a few times but I don't like the taste at all. It strikes me as having almost a medicinal taste. I'm not much on drinking any hard liquor straight as it is, but when I do I like a Canadian blended whiskey. Otherwise, I prefer mixed drinks like rum and coke or a margarita, but 99% of the time I'll drink beer over anything else. Just personal taste.

If you folks live in Scotland, what sort of beers do you have that are associated with your country?

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Yes Bill, it is a matter of personal taste. The whiskies mentioned are just two of many fine single malts (unblended) available, renowned for their smoother palate, as opposed to blended whiskies which have mor of a 'bite'. The story goes that malts were the original whiskies in Scotland but when the english moved in they couldn't handle it so the canny distillers started producing blends for the 'wimps'. It might be you had tried Laphroaig or another of the island produced whiskies recognised by their 'iodine' like flavour. Lots of information available at http://www.smws.co.uk/whisky/map.php
As to beers; we have many scottish produced beers but over the last ten years or so the 'real ales' have become very popular. These are produced in small local breweries and used to be made just as a hobby by enthusiasts but they've become so sought after that they can now be bought in supermarkets. For mouth watering examples see
http://www.beers-scotland.co.uk/
I recall making home brew many years ago and always adding extra sugar to raise the alcohol content. Probably some form of sacrilege there but me and my mates were making it to get legless - not as a dedicated art form. Do you just stick to one formula or can you create a variety? Do you make up your own ingredients? We used to just buy the ready to go packs, mix it up and wait.
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