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confused What will be the next big project?

I know finding better cures for HIV is big growing concern and well worth the effort but when will we be moving onto another project?

And if so...what would be some likely areas of research? I would think CANCER would be well worth the time...however, is it true that we have to understand protein folding first? So, would we do protein folding as a priority?

I guess..I don't think we should put all our eggs into one basket and waste to much time on one thing in this line of business.

Guess, I haven't seen any clear cut updates or answers as to where we are even headed right now. I feel better updates validating our efforts would be appreciated. Maybe, some scientific paperwork so that we know our effort won't end up in some useless and lost database somewhere unused.
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Re: What will be the next big project?

...when will we be moving onto another project?


I certainly hope not before we are done with the current project.

I guess. I don't think we should put all our eggs into one basket and waste to much time on one thing in this line of business.


I'd hardly call FAAH wasting time. HIV is a disease that got way out of control largely in part due to a lot of wasted time by governments, and John Q. Public. Had action been taken earlier, the situation wouldn't be as bad as it has gotten. While there are things that can cause cancer and other diseases, HIV gets passed from person-to-person in an all too easy manner.

The FAAH project was launched on November 21, 2005. That’s less than 5 months ago. The Human Proteome Folding Project was launched November 11, 2004… almost 17 months ago. Are you saying you’d be willing to stop the Human Proteome Folding Project? It has been running longer.

There are a lot of researchers in many areas that could benefit from the power of a grid, but switching from one project to the next before the data is complete seems like a time consuming waste to me. There is a formal selection and review process for new projects. Have you looked at all the information on the Research pages? The "Submit a Proposal" page has some .PDF and .DOC files with the selection criteria, etc. There's also a schedule (which does need to be updated) of when proposals will be evaluated.

Guess, I haven't seen any clear cut updates or answers as to where we are even headed right now.


I'd kinda agree with that. In my job, I work with projects that require ongoing updates on "where we are". When I see how much crunching has been done, it makes me wonder when do we know "complete" is.

...so that we know our effort won't end up in some useless and lost database somewhere unused.


I don't think grid computing is done on a whim. I'm sure the work that goes into the planning and execution of starting a grid project requires some level of accountability to make sure the data will get used. Everyday I see people who have faith in far less credible and tangible ideas. I've read the project summaries, and the FAQs about the current projects. I have no doubt in my mind that our data is valuable and will NOT be lost.

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Re: What will be the next big project?

No way...I think the human proteome folding is a very important project. From what I have read and understand it might not even be possible to create cures for diseases like cancer until we understand how proteins fold in the human body.

I have no problem with seeing the HIV project through either but like you were saying accountability and regular reassuring updates would be expected and nice.

Obviously a job half done isn't much good.
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Re: What will be the next big project?

your idea that the proteome is more basic may be right. but also consider that sometimes discoveries come from unusual places. who knows what these HIV inquiries could lead to, even if they are not 100% on target?

here's a wild true story :)

"I fell into a reverie, and lo, the atoms were gamboling before my eyes! Whenever, hitherto, these diminutive beings had appeared to me, they had always been in motion; but up to that time, I had never been able to discern the nature of their motion. Now, however, I saw how, frequently, two smaller atoms united to form a pair; how a larger one embraced the two smaller ones; how still larger ones kept hold of three or even four of the smaller; whilst the whole kept whirling in a giddy dance. I saw how the larger ones formed a chain, dragging the smaller ones after them, but only at the ends of the chain. . . The cry of the conductor: “Clapham Road,” awakened me from my dreaming; but I spent part of the night in putting on paper at least sketches of these dream forms. This was the origin of the Structural Theory."

(Kekule', on his discovery of the structure of carbon)
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Re: What will be the next big project?

I have an older wise friend who is a real certified psychic. Not the lady cleo on tv either or any of that non-sense who try and make money off it. She is an older school pegan type which deals with natural ways and order.

She has told me much wisdom. Human Proteome folding is right on target according to her. Without understanding it..which we won't for a while...we don't have the right cards to play against diseases like cancer. We have to understand how proteins fold and mis-fold and the basics.

Intriguing story tho. I believe information is released to us when the time is right and the information is what matters most...not who released it as much. Like a holding box where we are only allowed so much information in a certain amount of time as we become more aware and responsible enough to handle new information. Certain individuals are selected and given knowledge to share with the world.

Seems to me that great people served their function of releasing new information and made their great breakthroughs then disappeared into history and nothing more can be said because their FUNCTION was served.
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Re: What will be the next big project?

What about a project to identify suitable molecules for a molecular computer? The project could be split into two complementary teams, one trying to make organic-based molecular computers and the other using inorganic materials like CMOS. After the projects have identified the best molecule(s) suitable for a molecular computer, using an evolutionary algorithm they can zero in on the best 3-dimensional processor.

Then these computers can go on sale and perpetuate the grid research... except thousands of times faster. devilish
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Re: What will be the next big project?

Wasn't there something recently about IBM creating a basic circuit or something on nanotubes? Seems technology may be closer to your idea than you thought biggrin
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