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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
The results of the computations of the Smallpox project were given to the US deprtment of Defence!!!
So the people from all over the world, in good faith that they are doing something good for the mankind, were actually computing for the US Army? Does anybody have any ideas what will happen with the results of the Protein folding project? As this results will be produced by the people from all over the world, they should be available to the public and not given to any Deapartment of any country! |
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USA
Advanced Cruncher Joined: Nov 22, 2004 Post Count: 107 Status: Offline |
As I remember The Grid.org Cliant
Listed the Dept. Def. right in your face. Right on the Desk top Device. We all Crunched in good faith. Why did you make like they tried to hide it? Heres a short read if you can keep up. Once again IF you READ the web site May get an Honest (Un  paranoid) view. |
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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
In the page you advised me to read - where exactly do you see any information about how/where the results of the computations will be available?
Maybe I am not looking close enough, but I didn't find any information about that. (and I didn't use the Grid.org client so I don't know, how was that written there) I am not doubting that the calculations are really what they say they are, and I am not interested in the specific details about proteine folding ,i am just trying to say that the results of the computations should be made available to everybody... or at least it has to be written somewhere very clearly which institution or company will use the final results so I can choose if I want to donate my computing power to them. If this is already written somewhere, I would be happy to know where... |
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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
The results of the computations of the Smallpox project were given to the US deprtment of Defence!!! So the people from all over the world, in good faith that they are doing something good for the mankind, were actually computing for the US Army? Does anybody have any ideas what will happen with the results of the Protein folding project? As this results will be produced by the people from all over the world, they should be available to the public and not given to any Deapartment of any country! i also cannot find that information. i'd like to see the results somewhere as well. could anyone please answer to this? i completely agree with you, uros. |
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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
The most complete answer to this question was made by Alther. Do a SEARCH for Alther and you can find all his posts. Basically, the World Community Grid is a non-profit organization funded by IBM for PR purposes. It runs projects for other non-profit organizations who sign a contract with the World Community Grid guaranteeing that the results are public domain. The contract details can be found under 'Request for Proposals'. So the main question is -- how good are the IBM lawyers at protecting contracts?
The best way to study this is to read the posts on http://www.groklaw.net/ This covers the attempted land grab of Linux by SCO. The venture capital firm that was backing SCO bailed out when they discovered the lawsuit they were funding was being opposed by IBM. |
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Baeocystin
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So the people from all over the world, in good faith that they are doing something good for the mankind, were actually computing for the US Army? USAMRIID (Military Medical Research) and the CDC, both Government organizations, are the only facilities with the resources to create & manufacture a SmallPox vaccine. No private company will ever do it, as SmallPox has been eradicated in nature, and only is a threat if a bioterrorist somehow gets ahold of a sample and weaponizes it. The Army wants to be able to vaccinate both its soldiers and our population. They're working *for* all of us. |
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USAMRIID (Military Medical Research) and the CDC, both Government organizations, are the only facilities with the resources to create & manufacture a SmallPox vaccine. No private company will ever do it, as SmallPox has been eradicated in nature, and only is a threat if a bioterrorist somehow gets ahold of a sample and weaponizes it. The Army wants to be able to vaccinate both its soldiers and our population. They're working *for* all of us. The US Government will not share the SmallPox vaccine with a country that it is at war with, no matter how many innocent people are suffering. I'm not trying to single out the US Gov, because I don't know of a single goverment that would do it. My point is, when the world helps to develop a cure for any disease, the world should own that cure, not a single government. |
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The best way would be to have the results published in a peer-reviewed scientific journal. That is the way scientific research is disseminated to the academic world and beyond.
Folding@home, for instance, has published their research results in many articles in various scientific journals. Cheers!  |
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Former Member
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The US Government will not share the SmallPox vaccine with a country that it is at war with, no matter how many innocent people are suffering. I'm not trying to single out the US Gov, because I don't know of a single goverment that would do it. My point is, when the world helps to develop a cure for any disease, the world should own that cure, not a single government. Could I ask if you would for a moment to consider your statement? This is totally my view so feel free to tell me if I put it out the wrong way. 1) Don't you think by saying that the US Gov. will not share the vaccine with the country it is at WAR kinda say the US Gov. used it on the country in the first place? (This is kinda touchy but hey had to point it out) 2) I may not be born in the US but I've seen the US do many good things in my life time no matter how many times it screwes up do it. Saying the US would not share the vaccine is plain dumb in the first place. Small pox is a deadly virus, it WILL spead very fast and you don't really want to take the chance that half the bloody countries in the world get infected would you? (I'm slightly guessing here but if my history books were any good I remember reading about a 60 - 80% chance of dieing once you get it.) Don't think every country would sit by and suck on their thumbs while the world burns around them. Just my 2 cents... wait a minute my country doesn't uses 1 cents no more hmm.... |
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Former Member
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smallpox and bush would be a good combination ...I as middle earth warrior from europa ( heart of all culture ) would like to share my work ... and not with the goverment of U Ssorry but I don't trust them
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