Bill --

A couple of other pointers on reducing the numbers of characters in your signature file. You can reduce the size of any url you reference by using TinyURL.com. In addition, the pseudo-HTML in use in the forum will fill in the "http://" for url's you reference as well. For example, your signature references the graphic at http://home.alltel.net/billvelek/pale-beer.gif. I was able to reduce this from 46 characters to 24 using TinyURL.com and got http://tinyurl.com/8z3br. Then, further reducing it by stripping off the "http://" gets it down to 17 characters, "tinyurl.com/8z3br"

So, instead of coding 56 characters:

{img]http://home.alltel.net/billvelek/pale-beer.gif[img]

you can use (28 characters, half what you are now using):

{img]tinyurl.com/8z3br[/img]

which will generate

Go ahead and use the tinyurl.com/8z3br I created -- since it will always be available once created.

Bill --

Try generating your stats image again and then generate a new TinyURL for it. I looked for http://tinyurl.com/8ydb2l and get an error message from TinyURL.com saying that it could not find the URL to redirect to. This would indicate that what you put into TinyURL initially to generate the smaller one wasn't really there.

David, I've tried loading an existing panel, and doing all sorts of things, and I can't seem to generate a .gif

I'm sure I'm modifying my sig file correctly, because I when I used your .gif, it loaded correctly. I'm about to give up on sero.cwsurf.de ... are there any other ways to generate a statistics banner?

Thanks.

Bill Velek