let the guy have some fun, i don't see any harm.

we must respect the moderaters here.

but by freak coincidence, i was going to point to little leaguers and their parents, in the opposite direction! such language is certainly normal to them

Samuel Clemens indicated that I have broken "numerous" rules in that one post. I have now carefully re-read the rules and the only one that I think I _might_ have broken is the "kid friendly" rule. My language was certainly not obscene or hate-filled, did not denigrate or "flame" anyone, and is hardly considered "profane" by today's standards. For future reference, could you or someone else please list my violations?

Anyway, I regret that I have tarnished the image of HomeBrewers by using, in someone's opinion, crude language. But just to set the record straight (now that my words have been changed), I'm sure I didn't use any really hard or vulgar language like FxCK, or SHxT, or BxSTxRD, or GxD DxMN, because that would be completely out of character for me, even when I've had a few homebrews. What I think I no doubt used was AxS in place of BUTT and HxLL in place of HECK. Must of have been something I picked up during my years in prison ministry (yes, I am a devout, practicing Christian ... but drinking homebrews is okay for me because I'm Catholic ). But as a judge for the past 20 years or so, I can assure you that the use of "hxll" and "axs" do not rise to the level necessary to convict anyone of disorderly conduct or any other crime; and yes, I've typed those words out in their entirety [ed: see below] because we are having an adult conversation here. Also, as the father of eight children (youngest is now 15), all raised by me and my wife of 32 years, I find it amazing that those two words would be considered as offensive by any mature person. While "axs" and "hxll" is admittedly pretty rough language for pre-school children, any child who is mature enough to be reading the forums on a grid-computing website is no doubt well beyond that stage and has been exposed to much more. But I am also aware that there are childish adults who squirm over such things, too, ... probably including the mere mention of brewing and drinking beer ... so I will be more careful in the future about my foul language least it offend the "kids" among us. And by the way, my wife, who doesn't drink, was the designated driver, and my sons' band played very well last night.

Cheers.

Bill Velek


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Bill - I appreciate your post, but I'm arfaid we can't start selectively editing posts or people will be pushing the limits faster than I can type. So, I've edited this post according to the guidelines which have been clearly demonstrated by example. - nelsoc

Just wait until my "HomeBrewers" TV commercial is aired during the SuperBowl, and THEN we'll see how fast we catch up to everyone else! We'll show you, alright.

Seriously, I am disappointed that we haven't been able to recruit more members than we have so far. I had actually hoped to have a team of at least 50 members by the end of the year, but have failed miserably. I imagine there are tens of thousands of homebrewers on the Internet, and I also imagine that the vast majority of them are not involved in grid-computing in any form. Those are the people we should be targeting, which is why I chided folks for recruiting from within WCG. Of course, I assume that most teams have members who are also trying to recruit fresh blood outside our forums, too, but from my personal experience and very disappointing results, I strongly suspect that the largest teams have grown to their sizes primarily as a result of their "Join my team ..." posts being constantly bumped to the top of the team-forum. While that's fun, it makes competition very hard for teams who are NOT recruiting just 'anybody'; the only folks I would think it fair for our team to recruit from within WCG are actual homebrewers. Notwithstanding that, we are still going to try to give everyone a run for their money, and if we can just break into the top 100 someday, especially considering the huge headstart that the leaders have, then I will feel that we have succeeded enormously.

Still, while I am disappointed in our team size, I am very happy with our team performance. Anyone who is interested can obviously check our exact stats on our team-page -- http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/ms/team/viewMyTeam.do -- so just let me summarize by bragging that we moved into the top 20% in all categories in just 37 days, and I am very confident that virtually all of our members are new to grid computing. I have what I think is an excellent recruitment page here -- http://tinyurl.com/b7ofs -- and if I can ever get 'Google' to pick up my site on their search engine, then maybe I will have better success.

Cheers.

Bill Velek