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alanb1951
Veteran Cruncher Joined: Jan 20, 2006 Post Count: 1317 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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For information...
There is now a thread -- 2023-06-12 Update (SCC Batch Issues) -- in the News forum acknowledging this issue and requesting that questions and comments are posted in that thread. Cheers - Al. |
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NixChix
Veteran Cruncher United States Joined: Apr 29, 2007 Post Count: 1187 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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Adri I know that the project scientists supply the batches.
----------------------------------------Krembil could have pulled the defective batches until corrected by the science team rather than leave us to suffer with them for almost a month with no acknowledgement of the problem. The problem was pretty well defined. That the offending files could have easily been suspended I have no doubt. I remember the previous WCG crew was always dealing with situations such as this, so I know what was possible. Cheers   |
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Unixchick
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I haven't gotten a "C" WU in a while. Do we thing they have pulled them? No word on if the issue is fixed.
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adriverhoef
Master Cruncher The Netherlands Joined: Apr 3, 2009 Post Count: 2346 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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Krembil could have pulled the defective batches until corrected by the science team rather than leave us to suffer with them for almost a month with no acknowledgement of the problem. The problem was pretty well defined. That the offending files could have easily been suspended I have no doubt. Yes, they could have ... if they would have ... and they should have ... They didn't do what we wanted them to do in the way we expected them to do. So we had a problem not within our control. We could blame ourselves for running into this problem. Or we can easily put the blame on others/someone else, which will lead to several unhelpful emotions, such as resentment, anger, and hatred. The blame game. Once you blame someone, do you then think they deserve to be treated poorly? Adri |
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adriverhoef
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No word on if the issue is fixed. Please be patient. You almost suceeded in replying to this message:  For information... See this post.There is now a thread -- 2023-06-12 Update (SCC Batch Issues) -- in the News forum acknowledging this issue and requesting that questions and comments are posted in that thread. Cheers - Al. Adri |
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NixChix
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Krembil could have pulled the defective batches until corrected by the science team rather than leave us to suffer with them for almost a month with no acknowledgement of the problem. The problem was pretty well defined. That the offending files could have easily been suspended I have no doubt. Yes, they could have ... if they would have ... and they should have ... They didn't do what we wanted them to do in the way we expected them to do. So we had a problem not within our control. We could blame ourselves for running into this problem. Or we can easily put the blame on others/someone else, which will lead to several unhelpful emotions, such as resentment, anger, and hatred. The blame game. Once you blame someone, do you then think they deserve to be treated poorly? Adri The only thing worse than someone who doesn't do their job is someone who defends them not doing their job. Who is treating Krembil poorly, and how? Cheers |
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TPCBF
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The only thing worse than someone who doesn't do their job is someone who defends them not doing their job. Who is treating Krembil poorly, and how? +1Cheers Well, beside that "Krembil" according to Dr.Jurisica isn't involved in all of this in the first place, "treating poorly" probably means you are criticizing WCG Towers AT ALL. We are all to fall in line, put on our rose colored glasses and sing Kumbaya. If you dare to point out their (mostly self inflicted) failures and short comings, it will just result in you being censored... Ralf |
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adriverhoef
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The only thing worse than someone who doesn't do their job is someone who defends them not doing their job. I was writing "Please tell how they are not doing their job in great detail. You are probably sitting next to them", but the only one who can judge if they are/aren't, is their boss. I would like to say that we are not living in Utopia, in an ideal world. Adri [Edit 7 times, last edit by adriverhoef at Jun 14, 2023 9:57:04 AM] |
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Warped@RSA
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From time to time I receive a group of resends which all end in error.
----------------------------------------They take only a second or two, so not an issue for me. I assume that the scientists are able to use this information to refine the research.
Dave
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TPCBF
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From time to time I receive a group of resends which all end in error. Sorry but no, they aren't.They take only a second or two, so not an issue for me. I assume that the scientists are able to use this information to refine the research. The problem is that the info about these WUs has been botched in at least 4 batches, which resulted in those WUs immediately terminating, before any research can be done. It just resulted (it SEEMS it has been resolved, for now) in a waste of bandwidth on both ends to upload/download those WUs and in the hosts that have those defective WUs error out being deemed "unreliable" by the BOINC system which in turn creates problems in receiving WUs in the first place... Ralf |
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