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Former Member
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Does the project need to keep forum posts older than 8 or 10 years. Why not go through the DB and delete all those old posts? Recover disk space, speed up the DB, and reduce clutter. I would suggest anything older than 8 or 10 years is probably not valid anymore. If you absolutely, positively, have to keep the old posts for historical reasons (don't know why) then archive them. Since we are embarking on a new WCG, why not adopt data cleanliness and recover IT resources. Just a suggestion
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Ian-n-Steve C.
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You’d be surprised how useful even a 10 year old post can be sometimes.
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Cyclops
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Hi entity,
Thanks for the suggestion, the team is going to consider this. |
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Sgt.Joe
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Does the project need to keep forum posts older than 8 or 10 years. Why not go through the DB and delete all those old posts? Recover disk space, speed up the DB, and reduce clutter. I would suggest anything older than 8 or 10 years is probably not valid anymore. If you absolutely, positively, have to keep the old posts for historical reasons (don't know why) then archive them. Since we are embarking on a new WCG, why not adopt data cleanliness and recover IT resources. Just a suggestion Another way to do this would be to archive any posts from non-active members who are gone for some specified time. Cheers
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TPCBF
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What would be the benefit of this, beside A LOT of additional work? I am pretty sure that the forum posts DB is a mere fraction of the overall resources of WCG.
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Sgt.Joe
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What would be the benefit of this, beside A LOT of additional work? I am pretty sure that the forum posts DB is a mere fraction of the overall resources of WCG. Ralf You may right. Just thought I would offer a suggestion anyway. For any good DB admin the the query to do so should be trivial. Cheers
Sgt. Joe
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It is good IT practice (Data Lifecycle Management) for many reasons. Some applicable to WCG and some aren't. It only takes work to initially set it up but after that it can be done automatically on a schedule. Why buy resources when you have them already but occupied by something that isn't being used? Seems intuitive that it would be faster to insert a row in 10,000 rows versus 1,000,000 rows. Seems like backups would be quicker and use less resources. Lot of companies end up in court because they are too lazy to clean up their data
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TPCBF
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It is good IT practice (Data Lifecycle Management) for many reasons. Some applicable to WCG and some aren't. It only takes work to initially set it up but after that it can be done automatically on a schedule. Why buy resources when you have them already but occupied by something that isn't being used? Seems intuitive that it would be faster to insert a row in 10,000 rows versus 1,000,000 rows. Seems like backups would be quicker and use less resources. Lot of companies end up in court because they are too lazy to clean up their data Being in IT for a long time now (46 years), when using a proper database system to begin with, the time savings for insertion in 10,000 vs 1,000,000 (to stick to your example) will be minimal. Then when you purge old posts, where do you draw the line? Do you include admin/pinned posts? Do you adjust the post counts? Again, I am not sure if the effort is worse the benefits. there are far simpler changes that much more likely improving the usage of the forum. Getting the old icon colors back, yes, that's a pet peeve of mine, but I also know I am not the only one looking forward to that. Specially now that this ghastly color scheme that came with those changes have been rolled back/improved. That's also a rather quick one time change that doesn't cost any resources at all... ![]() Ralf ![]() ![]() |
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