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Jim1348
Veteran Cruncher USA Joined: Jul 13, 2009 Post Count: 1066 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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Every time I look at GPUGRID’s server stats page there are some tasks in progress. Work has to be available for it to be in progress by others. They have work. Not a lot. But they have it. Claiming they haven’t had work for months is objectively false. You’re either not requesting work regularly, or you’re not interested in their machine learning based beta work. It’s fine if you’re not interested in that work, but that doesn’t mean it’s not available. But this goes back to the original statement about opng work. If you want it, you have to ask for it regularly. And the most effective way to do that is with a looping command or script, due to the limitations in BOINC’s scheduler logic. You have really, really missed the point. If you look at the OPNG server status page (if they had one), they would show even more work being done than GPUGrid. That doesn't mean any individual cruncher can get enough of it to keep a GPU card busy. I certainly can't. But for the advice of someone else to go to FAH, I don't have to. I am already there for my GPU's. If you want to stay here and bang away thinking you are doing something useful, that is up to you. But you are really just standing in line to get GPU work that others could do, while you could be doing something else with your cards. Suit yourself. [Edit 1 times, last edit by Jim1348 at Jan 18, 2022 10:54:15 PM] |
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Ian-n-Steve C.
Senior Cruncher United States Joined: May 15, 2020 Post Count: 180 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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I think you're confusing comments between myself and bluestang. but comparing number of tasks distributed between between GPUGRID and OPNG is a bit disingenuous anyway when OPNG tasks take ~5-10 mins to run on a midrange GPU and the GPUGRID tasks will easily take 12-24+hours for each task on mid-high end GPUs
----------------------------------------I merely provided a solution to "not getting tasks". the reply was to you initially since you posed the issue, but anyone is free to use the advice if they are actually interested in crunching for the project. my real GPU rigs mainly crunch Einstein. I but i just recently started using the iGPU on my laptop to crunch some OPNG tasks in it's spare time whenever they show up.  EPYC 7V12 / [5] RTX A4000 EPYC 7B12 / [5] RTX 3080Ti + [2] RTX 2080Ti EPYC 7B12 / [6] RTX 3070Ti + [2] RTX 3060 [2] EPYC 7642 / [2] RTX 2080Ti |
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bikeaddict
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Both OPNG and FAH tasks can be run simultaneously on the same GPU. The OPNG tasks are so short and infrequent that they hardly slow down the FAH tasks that run 24/7.
I encourage you to start running OPNG tasks alongside FAH. An extra bonus is that then less work is sent to the often argumentative people on the forum who insist on hijacking tasks (and increasing load on the servers with extra requests from looping scripts.) and taking work away from other patient, polite and considerate people that would have otherwise been assigned the work. People like me who wait their turn to help with scientific research.  This isn't a competition. |
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Jim1348
Veteran Cruncher USA Joined: Jul 13, 2009 Post Count: 1066 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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Both OPNG and FAH tasks can be run simultaneously on the same GPU. The OPNG tasks are so short and infrequent that they hardly slow down the FAH tasks that run 24/7. Yes, that is possible. I tried it during the beta phase of OPNG, and it seemed to do fairly well. But I could not get enough work then to do a real test, and I get even less now. I think it is a good way to monitor the situation, but it does not seem necessary to me. If OPNG gets enough work to keep a card busy full time, I would just put a card on it full time. Maybe someone can let us know if that happens. [Edit 1 times, last edit by Jim1348 at Jan 19, 2022 2:12:50 AM] |
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bluestang
Senior Cruncher USA Joined: Oct 1, 2010 Post Count: 272 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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If you want to stay here and bang away thinking you are doing something useful, that is up to you. But you are really just standing in line to get GPU work that others could do, while you could be doing something else with your cards. Suit yourself. LOL [REDACTED FOR INSULTING TERM]? That can be said for most projects...just getting work that others could do. You're making no sense and this is getting old. If you don't want to do OPNG work, then [REDACTED FOR INSULTING TERM] and let others do what they like. You're not paying their electric bills [REDACTED FOR INSULTING TERM]. Oh, and I don't have to stand in line. I can make my way to the front anytime I want to and get as many tasks as I want to to keep my GPUs fed 24/7 with OPNG. It's called learning how BOINC and this project works and putting in just a little more effort. Posts that violate our Communication Guidelines are subject to moderation. ---------------------------------------- [Edit 1 times, last edit by chiara.p at Jan 19, 2022 2:46:59 PM] |
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Jim1348
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There is no point in going over the same ground ad infinitum. No, they don't have enough work to keep any card busy. How you could possibly confuse taking work away from other machines and adding to the total output is beyond me. But you manage to do it.
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Ian-n-Steve C.
Senior Cruncher United States Joined: May 15, 2020 Post Count: 180 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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I think it is a good way to monitor the situation, but it does not seem necessary to me. If OPNG gets enough work to keep a card busy full time, I would just put a card on it full time. Maybe someone can let us know if that happens. for slower GPUs, OPNG CAN keep the system busy full time. with my looping requests, my laptop iGPU has been running about 24hrs non-stop now. always has about 10-20 tasks in the queue. each task takes about 30 mins to complete. EPYC 7V12 / [5] RTX A4000 EPYC 7B12 / [5] RTX 3080Ti + [2] RTX 2080Ti EPYC 7B12 / [6] RTX 3070Ti + [2] RTX 3060 [2] EPYC 7642 / [2] RTX 2080Ti |
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bluestang
Senior Cruncher USA Joined: Oct 1, 2010 Post Count: 272 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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Whatever. Yes, I would like there to be an infinite flow of work for OPNG, but there isn't for a reason right now. I can accept that, you can't. So just move on to another GPU project and leave others alone who want to do OPNG work.
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Grumpy Swede
Master Cruncher Svíþjóð Joined: Apr 10, 2020 Post Count: 2138 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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With a simple looping .bat file, I will easily have both my GTX980 Strix, and the iGPU HD4600 well fed with work 24/7. No problems whatsoever.
----------------------------------------I'm not running 24/7 though at the moment, and that's only because of a very high cost of electricity now, here in Europe. [Edit 1 times, last edit by Grumpy Swede at Jan 19, 2022 3:26:59 PM] |
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