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KerSamson
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WU trouble on RPi

Hi,
I had to abort an OPN WU - OPN1_0051969_01188 - on my RPi 3B+ since it stucks at 64% since over 10 hours after about 23 hours computation (on this machine, an OPN WU needs about 17-19 hours).
From time to time, the RPi crashes and my guess is that it is not always caused by the SD-Card but by some WUs.
Does anyone make similar observation?
Cheers,
Yves
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Re: WU trouble on RPi

I have a Raspberry Pi 4 8GB. Never happens to me that situation, only a few errors where the result file with a different size than expected
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Re: WU trouble on RPi

Not observed that issue with my 3A+ or 2 x 3B+. However, each runs from its SATA SSD in USB enclosures, so no SD card concerns.
What are you using for the 5.1 volts power supply for the Pi? If remembered correctly from a previous append, your cooling should be OK. Which OS?
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Re: WU trouble on RPi

My second RPi experiences a similar problem with another OPN WU - OPN1_0052146_00119 - see below:
OpenPandemics - COVID 19 7.17
State Running
Received 2021-06-01 10:50:57
Report deadline 2021-06-08 10:50:57
Estimated app speed 0.46 GFLOPs/sec
Estimated task size 31'832 GFLOPs
CPU time at last checkpoint 20:10:48
CPU time 20:30:54
Elapsed time 20:43:43
Estimated time remaining 36d,09:01:56
Fraction done 2.319%
Virtual memory size 152.48 MB
Working set size 92.93 MB

The other concurrently running WUs look fine.
After 1 year, experiencing the same problem on two machines within less than 2 days is maybe not a coincidence angel
Cheers,
Yves
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KerSamson
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Re: WU trouble on RPi

Hi TonyEllis,
in a near future, I plan to replace the two RPi 3B+ with two RPi 4 and to operate them with a SSD.
With the RPi 4, I will need a better cooling approach. Currently, I put the RPi 3 in the airflow or a PC tower. The RPi is an original Raspberry case and I removed the top cover in order to facilitate the ventilation.
What case do you use for your RPi 4?
Cheers,
Yves
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Re: WU trouble on RPi

Yves - no Pi 4 here just 1x 3A+ and 2 x 3B+. They are housed in transparent cases from eBay with tiny 30 mm fans - enough to keep the CPUs cool enough and almost silent. 40 mm fans are much noisier.

Asked about what power supply you were using as I tried using PC and modem USB ports, but could see the red light in the case occasionally blinking and decided that might not be good for reliable results with the CPUs at 100% - so am using the official 5.1 volt Pi supplies.

Two of these Pis are used for DNS and Pihole - and the third will become my webserver. Also have a Zero WH for testing and experimentation - but is too slow for WCG. The 3B Pis boot from SD card which just has the /boot partition - so is only is use for a very short time. Swap /root etc are all on the SSD (very inexpensive 120GB WD Green SATA SSD).

The 3B cases - https://www.ebay.com/itm/362856676049
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Re: WU trouble on RPi

Hi TonyEllis,
I use a 2.1 A power supply from Belkin. Since wifi is off, and no external device is connected, it should be normally sufficient. The both RPi 3B+ crunch since end of May 2020 (release of OPN1 for RPi with Raspian).
Since October 2020, I run 4 WUs simultaneously on each RPi. I experienced some crashes in November and December because of too limited swap space. I increased it up to 521 MB, since there plenty of space on the SD Card.
Today, I set again to concurrent 3 WUs (we move step by step to Summer).
Cheers,
Yves
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Re: WU trouble on RPi

I have a RPI3 running OPN WUs, with a zram swap, and occasionally it gets very close to filling both ram and swap (i know because i have a simple monitoring setup). Most WUs seem to use 80-160M ram, but some WUs use up to twice that, and that's when it starts to swap.

Reading your comment, you have swap on SD card. Do you have also an in-memory swap (either zram or zswap) ? IMO it's a bad idea to have swap on SD card without zram/zswap in between. Increasing the swap on the SD card might help somewhat, but i'd avoid it based on my previous experience.

as for SD card in general (not swap usage): in my experience, if you tweak your OS a little, to minimize writes, it works fine. I've been running boinc on 6 linux SBCs (2 RPIs, 4 ODROIDs) for ~7 months, nonstop, full load (1 WU per each core) and except for one card with problems, all have been stable.
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