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strombergFs
Cruncher Switzerland Joined: Mar 30, 2021 Post Count: 23 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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So how many OPN WUs your Ryzen 3600 crunches per day ?
----------------------------------------And what is the real power consumption of that computer? The C4 is much more efficient than my older i7NUC and MacBookPro 2015 i5 2.7GHz. That some new CPUs are more efficient is sure, but these small arm boards (Raspi, C4, N2 and others) are amazing. So they are for sure a good choice by limited budget - they do help!
HPC-NussKnacker - 15x Odroid C4
(60x ARMv8-A Cortex-A55 cores @2Ghz, 60GB DDR4 RAM, 240GB eMMC) MacBookPro early 2015 i5 (4C/4T @2.7GHz) NUC i7 8650U (4C/8T @1.9Ghz) |
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Loadie
Cruncher USA Joined: Mar 29, 2021 Post Count: 15 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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I have a 8gb Pi4 and a old S8 phone. The phone gets more results.
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Crunching system held together with duct tape and bailing wire.
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strombergFs
Cruncher Switzerland Joined: Mar 30, 2021 Post Count: 23 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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what else you let crunch beside the Pi4 and the S8?
----------------------------------------According to your earned badges you have much more running :-)
HPC-NussKnacker - 15x Odroid C4
(60x ARMv8-A Cortex-A55 cores @2Ghz, 60GB DDR4 RAM, 240GB eMMC) MacBookPro early 2015 i5 (4C/4T @2.7GHz) NUC i7 8650U (4C/8T @1.9Ghz) |
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BobbyB
Veteran Cruncher Canada Joined: Apr 25, 2020 Post Count: 638 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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So how many OPN WUs your Ryzen 3600 crunches per day? And what is the real power consumption of that computer? The machine does all 5 projects in whichever order they come in so I will have to dig into the stats to single out OPN but on average they each take 1.25 to 1.45 hours. Same goes for real power consumption. Have no tools to measure so I will have to deduce the numbers from the Internet: motherboard, fan, disk, and an old graphics card 12+ years old.So they are for sure a good choice by limited budget. Yes but you got 15 of them plus a switch plus cables plus eMMC cards; not exactly a limited budget unless we have a different definition of "limited budget". I sure we don't so I get the idea.Will post those numbers later. |
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BobbyB
Veteran Cruncher Canada Joined: Apr 25, 2020 Post Count: 638 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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Using 2021/05/08 data, it did 128 OPN WUs for an average time of 1.40 hours but it also did 218 WUs for other projects. 200000+ points as per WCG (whatever that represents)
----------------------------------------My estimate for the PC is about 175W but let's round it to 190W for whatever reason. PC: AMD 3900x 105w, fan 2.6w, ram 3w, mobo 50w, graphic 5w, disk 8w There's a switch, 1 monitor, 1 mouse, and 1 Keyboard for all 3 and the monitor is off. [Edit 1 times, last edit by BobbyB at May 9, 2021 5:02:27 PM] |
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strombergFs
Cruncher Switzerland Joined: Mar 30, 2021 Post Count: 23 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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ok, the data is not exactly compareable, but we see Raspi&Co are not far away at all (WUs / Watt / day).
----------------------------------------Regarding the budget i just mean that one Raspi or similar is a great piece of hardware to support WCG. It is about to help and these small boards do help in a quite efficient way. They do outperform many older and quite actual PCs with a small entry budget. Also it is easy to add more by time..whenever the budget allow it. But you can not buy half a PC :-)
HPC-NussKnacker - 15x Odroid C4
(60x ARMv8-A Cortex-A55 cores @2Ghz, 60GB DDR4 RAM, 240GB eMMC) MacBookPro early 2015 i5 (4C/4T @2.7GHz) NUC i7 8650U (4C/8T @1.9Ghz) |
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BobbyB
Veteran Cruncher Canada Joined: Apr 25, 2020 Post Count: 638 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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These device are good little machines and I'm just looking for an excuse to use one which is why I started this thread.
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Loadie
Cruncher USA Joined: Mar 29, 2021 Post Count: 15 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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I was just comparing my Pi4 to a cracked screen hand me down S8. The S8 running android 11 and boinc does better than my Pi4. Old S8 phones are easy to find and have 8 cores. I run 6 cores at a time. As far as my other devices, Ryzen 3800XT/GTX 1660 does all the heavy lifting. 😁
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mikey159c
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ok, the data is not exactly compareable, but we see Raspi&Co are not far away at all (WUs / Watt / day). Regarding the budget i just mean that one Raspi or similar is a great piece of hardware to support WCG. It is about to help and these small boards do help in a quite efficient way. They do outperform many older and quite actual PCs with a small entry budget. Also it is easy to add more by time..whenever the budget allow it. But you can not buy half a PC :-) No but you can good crunching pc's on Ebay for less than half what they cost brand new, I just bought a dual Xeon quad core HP off lease machine with Win10 loaded onto a 250gb SSD drive and 24gb or DDR3 ram for under $300 shipped. I bought a 16 core, thru hyperthreading, pc for under $300!! Now the pc does run at only 2.8ghz so is far slower than todays 4ghz machines but it's not about speed but quantity that matters here. I also have 3 Raspberry Pi's 4's running but not here right now, they are coming once I achieve my goal. |
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BobbyB
Veteran Cruncher Canada Joined: Apr 25, 2020 Post Count: 638 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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This is true about older PCs on eBay. One thing to check is the actual CPU installed along with the fastest which can be installed on the motherboard. The faster CPU can probably be bought cheap too. You can check the specs of CPUs at https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_list.php (no connection to me) and then judge by cost/speed. I also did this on the cheap for an off-lease HP (not on WCG). Went from 2/4 core 2.5 GHz to a 6/12 core 3.3 GHz.
----------------------------------------If you like to tinker you can also replace the motherboard of an old working clunker which you can probably get at a garage sale for next to nothing. The case I was making was to compare the work done with these small devices. The writer above has 15 of them; not exactly a limited budget. My estimate is that he spent about the same I did for his setup as I did. Except he would need about 30 to put out what my 1 machine does. We could argue about wattage. You say it's the quantity that matters. I agree. Speed puts out that quantity a little faster. Not disparaging Pi's. I you got them use them. If you are buying and want to put out numbers, then calculate it all out. Get a Pi if that old clunker will only put out the same as a Pi. Don't buy the clunker. [Edit 1 times, last edit by BobbyB at May 25, 2021 3:31:59 PM] |
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