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I noticed that the top donator yesterday has close to 280 results per installed devices. Compare that with IBM's less than .1 results per installed devices. 280 results per device is about a result every 5 minutes so someone has very fast equipment. Here is a link {https://www.pcworld.com/article/3543834/nvidi...l-geforce-pc-gamers.html}. It states that they can reduce large room computers down to closet size computers and still be much faster. As for the top donator, I do not know how many teraflops they have.
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Re: Top donator yesterdey

This top donator is probably contributing to WCG with a 24+ (probably 32+) core machine, and it operate only such machines. Otherwise I do not see how such a rate could be reach.
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Re: Top donator yesterdey

The 280 results per installed device might actually be lower than what they are actually contributing! Since the device installation number is all devices ever registered with WCG under that account, it doesn't necessarily mean that they are currently crunching with that many devices. A reinstalled OS might count as a new device, or devices may have been retired.

But yes, they are definitely many-core machines. Depending on the number of cores and the work units selected for the machine to crunch, one machine can return thousands of units per day.

I have seen some potential evidence of stat manipulation (huge daily results returned, but without the kinds of badges I would expect to see to back those numbers up), but I believe that any "hacked" results are cleaned up by the backend of WCG's system.
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Re: Top donator yesterdey

A single 64 core 128 thread AMD machine could easily turn out those kind of results and much more.
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Re: Top donator yesterdey

I noticed that the top donor yesterday has close to 280 results per installed devices.
I have 41 active computers running now and WCG reports 89 installations. It says yesterday (whenever that was) I returned 6,665 results or 162 results per active computer or 75 per fictitious computer. These 41 computers have 1,054 threads running CPU WUs for an average of 27 threads per computer. That's 6.3 results per CPU thread per day or about 3.8 hours per WU.
WCW.NifHACK returned 52,527 results or 307 per installation with 171 installations. Since WCW.NifHACK has been a member for years their active computers are many fewer than 307. I see nothing out of whack with WCW.NifHACK's numbers.
Compare that with IBM's less than 0.1 results per installed devices. 280 results per device is about a result every 5 minutes so someone has very fast equipment.
This is The Spare Change Fallacy at work. Impossible to get 5 minutes per result.
Here is a link {https://www.pcworld.com/article/3543834/nvidi...l-geforce-pc-gamers.html}. It states that they can reduce large room computers down to closet size computers and still be much faster.
Not sure what Nvidia's upcoming Ampere has to do with the price of tea in China.
As for the top donor, I do not know how many teraflops they have.
I have 153,478 FP MIPS Whetstone and 3,504,469 Integer MIPS Drystone. BTW, this is a CPU project and not a GPU project.
I love the smell of math in the morning.
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Re: Top donator yesterdey

If I return 288 results a day then that's 1 per 5 minutes ;P)
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Re: Top donator yesterdey

Compare that with IBM's less than 0.1 results per installed devices. 280 results per device is about a result every 5 minutes so someone has very fast equipment.
This is The Spare Change Fallacy at work. Impossible to get 5 minutes per result.


I don't think they meant completing a result in 5 minutes, but more returning a result on average every 5 mins - e.g Having 200 cores all doing 7 tasks per day would be 1400 tasks a day, or just shy of 1 per minute on average.

That's how I read it to be anyway :)

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Re: Top donator yesterdey

My bad, I thought he meant they could run a WU in 5 minutes. Looking at BoincTasks sorted on Time Left it looks by eye that I'm submitting about one every 30 seconds. That spreads out to about one every 2 minutes down by the bottom of the list.
Clarification: The Spare Change Fallacy refers to IBM's (and others) obsession that the work is done by computers that went idle. The heavy lifting is done by dedicated BOINCers with the idle-timers filling out the tail of the distribution.
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Re: Top donator yesterdey

This contributor is legit. They are running many Epyc 7702P's in preparing those machines for special ICT purposes.
And while doing so, they use distributed processing projects as some sort of burnin, so to speak.

They helped the Dutch Power Cows team (DPC) to reach no 1 on the daylies of Rosetta@Home in the stampede in last April. After that they transferred all machines to WCG.
In doing so they contribute their power for medical goals and research.
(No, I don't work at Nifhack, but I'm part of DPC.)

Just to inform you guys/gals that this is no scam / cheat / something of the sort.
Just plain Epyc 7702P blades running 24/7 WCG projects. And yes: many!

My recently bought AMD 3950X (32 logical threads) processes around 490 WU's a day (MCM, MIP, SCC, FightAids@H). Thats about 1 WU every 3 minute.
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Re: Top donator yesterdey

Thank you for the explanation!
Without real budget constraints (start investment + electricity bill), we could do really exciting things rolling eyes
Cheers,
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