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pencho15
Cruncher Joined: May 23, 2016 Post Count: 3 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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Hello.
I have a problem with the BOINC Manager in my laptop, I have had it isntalled for years and never run into problems, but suddenly it became extremely slow, and it is simply impossible to end any research For example, I have been running two Microbiome Projects since 07:00 p.m. and currently is midnight but they just had a 10% progress. This isn't enough to save any advance and tomorrow both researches will be back at square one. All this time, before all suddently became slow was enough to run at least 40% if not 60% of the project. Another research of Cancer Makers only needed 8% to finish when problems started, but instead of 20-25 minutes, it took 3 hours to finish. How can I solve this?, it is impossible to keep helping if this keeps going on. |
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Sgt.Joe
Ace Cruncher USA Joined: Jul 4, 2006 Post Count: 7846 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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What operating system are you using ? If using Windows, take a look at Task Manager and see what else is running. If you can , please post a screen shot of your event log.
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pencho15
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Hello, I do use Windows. Today I have had the computer on 40 minutes without even a 0.1% progress in any project.
Here is my event log errors. I'm sorry its in Spanish, I hope you can understand it. Is it what you need? I had never actually used that tool.  |
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Falconet
Master Cruncher Portugal Joined: Mar 9, 2009 Post Count: 3315 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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Event log from BOINC. On Advanced View, go to tools, event log.
---------------------------------------- - AMD Ryzen 5 1600AF 6C/12T 3.2 GHz - 85W - AMD Ryzen 5 2500U 4C/8T 2.0 GHz - 28W - AMD Ryzen 7 7730U 8C/16T 3.0 GHz |
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jackielan2000
Advanced Cruncher China Joined: Dec 31, 2005 Post Count: 115 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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Hello, I do use Windows. Today I have had the computer on 40 minutes without even a 0.1% progress in any project. Here is my event log errors. I'm sorry its in Spanish, I hope you can understand it. Is it what you need? I had never actually used that tool. Task Manager. You use Windows so you can just hit 'Ctrl+Alt+Del' 1 time and choose 'Task Manager'. And this sort of thing comes up.  See if there's any unwanted application that you know takes a lot of memory. You can actually choose the application and click 'End Session' at the lower right corner to clear it from the memory. Also, the one I circulated in green is a Milkyway@home WU currently running. If you had many WUs running at the same time, each one would take the same amount of memory. E.g., 1 WU takes 40KB, 10 WUs will take 400KB. I don't know what kind of PC you have, but if yours is like mine, an old one with only 2GB RAM, you may want to lower the number of WUs running at the same time. Last time, one of the MIP WUs clogged up my PC and run for 38 hrs before I got frustrated and aborted it. I still don't know why but I suspect it was because I had too many WUs lined up. Anyway, I opt out of MIP after that. No problem from then on. 
AMD Athlon64X2 5400+ 2.8G | 2c
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pencho15
Cruncher Joined: May 23, 2016 Post Count: 3 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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Sorry.
I got this: 04/05/2020 06:40:56 p. m. | | Starting BOINC client version 7.2.47 for windows_x86_64 04/05/2020 06:40:56 p. m. | | log flags: file_xfer, sched_ops, task 04/05/2020 06:40:56 p. m. | | Libraries: libcurl/7.25.0 OpenSSL/1.0.1 zlib/1.2.6 04/05/2020 06:40:56 p. m. | | Data directory: C:\ProgramData\BOINC 04/05/2020 06:40:56 p. m. | | Running under account Francisco 04/05/2020 06:40:56 p. m. | | OpenCL: Intel GPU 0: Intel(R) HD Graphics (driver version 10.18.10.4276, device version OpenCL 1.2, 1374MB, 1374MB available, 354 GFLOPS peak) 04/05/2020 06:40:56 p. m. | | OpenCL CPU: Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU N2840 @ 2.16GHz (OpenCL driver vendor: Intel(R) Corporation, driver version 3.0.1.10891, device version OpenCL 1.2 (Build 76427)) 04/05/2020 06:40:56 p. m. | | Host name: Pencho15 04/05/2020 06:40:56 p. m. | | Processor: 2 GenuineIntel Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU N2840 @ 2.16GHz [Family 6 Model 55 Stepping 8] 04/05/2020 06:40:56 p. m. | | Processor features: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss htt tm pni ssse3 cx16 sse4_1 sse4_2 movebe popcnt nx lm vmx tm2 pbe 04/05/2020 06:40:56 p. m. | | OS: Microsoft Windows 8.1: x64 Edition, (06.03.9600.00) 04/05/2020 06:40:56 p. m. | | Memory: 3.89 GB physical, 7.58 GB virtual 04/05/2020 06:40:56 p. m. | | Disk: 891.54 GB total, 754.16 GB free 04/05/2020 06:40:56 p. m. | | Local time is UTC -5 hours 04/05/2020 06:40:56 p. m. | World Community Grid | URL http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/; Computer ID 3555618; resource share 100 04/05/2020 06:40:56 p. m. | World Community Grid | General prefs: from World Community Grid (last modified 23-Aug-2017 13:32:41) 04/05/2020 06:40:56 p. m. | World Community Grid | Host location: none 04/05/2020 06:40:56 p. m. | World Community Grid | General prefs: using your defaults 04/05/2020 06:40:56 p. m. | | Preferences: 04/05/2020 06:40:56 p. m. | | max memory usage when active: 1989.60MB 04/05/2020 06:40:56 p. m. | | max memory usage when idle: 2984.41MB 04/05/2020 06:40:56 p. m. | | max disk usage: 10.00GB 04/05/2020 06:40:56 p. m. | | don't use GPU while active 04/05/2020 06:40:56 p. m. | | suspend work if non-BOINC CPU load exceeds 50% 04/05/2020 06:40:56 p. m. | | (to change preferences, visit a project web site or select Preferences in the Manager) 04/05/2020 06:40:56 p. m. | | Not using a proxy 04/05/2020 06:41:19 p. m. | | Suspending GPU computation - computer is in use 04/05/2020 06:41:19 p. m. | World Community Grid | Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. 04/05/2020 06:41:19 p. m. | World Community Grid | Requesting new tasks for intel_gpu 04/05/2020 06:41:26 p. m. | World Community Grid | Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks 04/05/2020 06:54:35 p. m. | World Community Grid | Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. 04/05/2020 06:54:35 p. m. | World Community Grid | Requesting new tasks for intel_gpu 04/05/2020 06:54:39 p. m. | World Community Grid | Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks |
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jackielan2000
Advanced Cruncher China Joined: Dec 31, 2005 Post Count: 115 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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Sorry. I got this: 04/05/2020 06:40:56 p. m. | World Community Grid | General prefs: using your defaults 04/05/2020 06:40:56 p. m. | | Preferences: 04/05/2020 06:40:56 p. m. | | suspend work if non-BOINC CPU load exceeds 50% 04/05/2020 06:40:56 p. m. | | (to change preferences, visit a project web site or select Preferences in the Manager) Seems like you have a good PC, with the preference you have here, my guess is the problem might be caused by something you installed intentionally or unintentionally (like spyware). Try the following and see if there's any change to the situation: 1. Try 'Activity'-->'Run Always'. Don't use 'Run based on preferences'. It's better to set everything locally rather than using web preference. 2. DO NOT check 'suspend work if non-BOINC CPU load exceeds 50%'. If you really want to check it, you'd better find out if there's any other app or multiple apps running to make the CPU time above 50%. Like I described in my post, 'Ctrl+Alt+Del' 1 time, you may find sth in the task list. See if there's anything running above 50%
AMD Athlon64X2 5400+ 2.8G | 2c
MT6735 1.4G | 4c Helio G85 1.8G |8c Allwinner H2 1G | 4c SnapDragon 810 2.1G | 8c SnapDragon 801 2.5G | 4c |
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alanb1951
Veteran Cruncher Joined: Jan 20, 2006 Post Count: 1317 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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@pencho15
MIP1 is a memory hog! I'm not talking about how much space it needs but about the way it accesses memory... According to that log, you have a Celeron n2840 (2 cores, 2 threads) which has 1MB of L2 cache and no L3 cache, so almost everything MIP1 does will be accessing memory directly and that will dramatically increase the amount of time spent per task. (A processor's cache memory is much faster than that 4GB on the motherboard!) There's another possible issue with some MIP1 tasks regarding checkpoints; although most MIP1 tasks seem to run for similar amounts of time the internal structure of the jobs can be very different with the result that the time between checkpoints can be vastly different as well. (It does not checkpoint according to the limits you might configure, I'm afraid.) So, if you must run MIP1, only run one at a time. Also, make sure you have "Leave non-GPU tasks in memory when suspended" set and try to hibernate rather than shut down when you want to turn the machine off! I'm guessing it may still take well over a day to run one MIP1 job(!), but at least it shouldn't keep going back to the beginning!!! (And that set-up might be worthwhile anyway...) It might be worth only running more memory-efficient WCG work instead of MIP1. SCC1 and MCM1 don't tend to thrash the memory (and the new Open Pandemics application ought to be reasonable too), whilst HST1 can get a bit sluggish on machines with low cache, and ARP1 will probably appear as badly behaved as MIP1! (I also wonder if the machine would struggle to return an FAH2 job within the 1-day deadline...) Anyway, hope you can get your machine running in a way you're happy with! Good luck - Al. |
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hchc
Veteran Cruncher USA Joined: Aug 15, 2006 Post Count: 865 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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Al, that still doesn't explain why Pencho15's computer is now suddenly running much slower than it used to for many years. While the CPU may be limited compared to a modern Core CPU, he said it ran perfectly fine for years, so something has changed...perhaps with Windows or some rogue application demanding cycles.
----------------------------------------For example, my Pentium E5800 was released in 2010, while the OP's Celeron N2840 was released in 2014, but it still completes MIP1 and MCM1 work units in a few hours or so without problems. Need more information honestly. I'd watch Task Manager for a few minutes to see if any processes are demanding attention away from BOINC WCG science binaries. Or maybe even open up Performance Monitor and watch CPU, RAM, Disk I/O at the same time. With Windows, a clean install is helpful, ideally every year or so. it's tedious and time-consuming to reinstall and configure all applications, so I haven't done it on my boxes since 2018 and 2016. I'm due. OP, if you get too frustrated, just back everything up and wipe the hard drive and start fresh with a clean install of Windows 10 from a DVD or USB flash drive.
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