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Re: Work buffer - non existent

cc_config.xml maybe. There are minimum or minimal settings. Also near the bottom of the device profiles (follow custom radio button), there's are settings per project to control the number of units - per science - Don't know what the default is, but it's from 0 - 64 and unlimited, which is not quite true as a host cannot have more than around 1000 combined total.
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Re: Work buffer - non existent

The way I would approach this would be:

1. Stop and restart the client. Then look in the boinc client log for the number of CPUs the client has detected. It should be 80.

2. if not, set the NCPUS value in cc_config.xml to 80 and re-read the config files. Look in the log for a message that it was set to 80 CPUs.

3.If the client has 80 CPUs set and you are getting the limit of tasks in progress message. My first thought would be that you are hitting the 1000 WU per host hard limit. The BOINC client can only have 1000 WUs in progress regardless of CPUs or work queue length. This is a BOINC restriction not a project restriction.

If you don't have 1000 WUs assigned to that host and are getting a limit message, I would next check to see if you are getting errors on that machine which would restrict the number of WUs you get until you send enough valids to raise the limit. If not getting errors, then I would send an email to support@www.worldcommunitygrid.org (I think that is the address) for help
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Re: Work buffer - non existent

I have double checked my local preferences and my global preferences for all 4 profiles and can find nothing that would indicate why I have been suddenly restricted.

I feel that it is time for an important reminder:

As long as you have set local preferences for a given machine all "technical" parameters of the global preferences for that machine are ignored, even if you have changed only a single one of the local preferences.

In short the WCG profile used for that machine will be used only to decide which projects will be sent.
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Re: Work buffer - non existent

Sorry for not replying more quickly. Had a few things to sort out.

Ok. Just to explain the picture a little further.
Excluding android phones, I currently run 14 computers, almost all 24/7 and have always run them with buffers. Some just run with the global preferences, some I tweak at the local level depending on their situation.

Most of them have been running for years with no issues at all, which is how I have almost 1000 years of run time now.

Suddenly, 3 months ago, all my computers started to run without buffers. At most they have 2 tasks ready to run, when I have two tasks about to finish. In reality, it is a 0 or a 1 task buffer.
Of the 14 computers, 11 run windows and 3 run linux.

At the moment, I have about 428 tasks in pending validation/verification, 0 invalid, 0 too late, 0 aborted. There are 4 tasks with errors on 2 machines. Over the last 31 days, I have averaged 2550 tasks per day, so I think these percentages are low. I run 90% Zika WUs, 8% MIP and 2% other tasks.

So, having checked everything that people have suggested, I think there is something at the account level preventing me from getting extra work. I find it hard to believe that
14 computers over 2 OS's will suddenly all lose their buffers at the same time, without me tweaking any settings at all.

Additionally, the two linux based 80 thread machines only get 64 tasks generally. Even though at startup, boinc does see all 80 threads and boinc stats also reports both machines at 80 threads.

Am I missing anything? I really want to see if an admin can check my account, and if they can, how do I get in touch with them?
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Re: Work buffer - non existent

Check your actual buffer space and real free disk space and percentage allowed to use. That would be the so-called BOINC Data directory plus all it's subs, job slots etc. Maybe something big and permanent landed in there, so the client only has a small space to store work in.

To give my settings as reference

Use at Most 10GB
Leave at least 0 Gigabyte disk free
Use at most 60% of total disk space
Write to disk at most 600 seconds
Use at most 75% of page file.

All of them work according the lowest setting of any of them. If the BOINC data dir is part of other general user space, that all gets counted as use, so it's essential to have an exclusive BOINC data dir, which path is printed in the event log.

Reminds me, you can end up with old job slots with massive amounts of remnant job files. Check if you have old job slots. A properly finished job should empty the slot and eventually remove it.

Edit- Considering the new climate project takes about 1GB, 16 cores concurrent would need at least a 16GB allocated space.
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Re: Work buffer - non existent

Lavaflow,
They all have several gigs of space free. Even if that would be the issue, it would not hit all 14 machines at the same time.

Hence I am asking what is the best way to ask an admin to look into my account.
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Re: Work buffer - non existent

Lavaflow,
They all have several gigs of space free. Even if that would be the issue, it would not hit all 14 machines at the same time.

Hence I am asking what is the best way to ask an admin to look into my account.

At the bottom of non-forum pages of the WCG site there is a "Contact Us" link which raises a form you can fill in...

The link is to https://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/viewContactUs.do

Hope that helps - it does rather look as if there might be something wrong in your data at the WCG end...
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We're very much interested what the answer is. To expand on how BOINC looks at space
10GB allowed,the disk is 100GB large and I'm allowing 60% use of it, means only 6GB is really permitted.

Anyway, the message log should be telling if you hit update what if any work if requested and hint at why it is not sending more work. Set some extra log flags such as CPU scheduler <cpu_sched>1</cpu_sched> and debug <sched_op_debug>1</sched_op_debug> and <sched_ops>1</sched_ops>

You'd get log entries such as below down to the second

6/12/2019 8:18:00 AM Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
6/12/2019 8:18:00 AM Requesting new tasks for CPU
6/12/2019 8:18:00 AM [sched_op] CPU work request: 72681.19 seconds; 0.00 devices
6/12/2019 8:18:03 AM Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
6/12/2019 8:18:03 AM [sched_op] Server version 701
6/12/2019 8:18:03 AM No tasks sent
6/12/2019 8:18:03 AM No tasks are available for Microbiome Immunity Project
6/12/2019 8:18:03 AM No tasks are available for OpenZika
6/12/2019 8:18:03 AM No tasks are available for Help Stop TB
6/12/2019 8:18:03 AM No tasks are available for the applications you have selected.
6/12/2019 8:18:03 AM Project requested delay of 121 seconds

The 'no work' is because each has hit the max units allowed in my device profile. 8, 6, 13

Another thought, if the custom section in device profiles is set to allow 10 units for each project and you choose to crunch on only 1, then your cache will never be greater than 10 at that time. If all devices run off the same profile, that could be the common denominator.
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Re: Work buffer - non existent

Halleluja!

I think someone must have seen something as almost all of my machines have now gotten buffers.

I am not home, but by a quick calculation, my 80 thread machines downloaded over 800 WUs in 15 mins.
I downloaded 2100 WUs in 20mins and now have about 4200 WUs in progress.

Whatever happened, I thank you for getting things back to normal for me!

Alanb1951...thanks for the link. Looks like I don't need it now and I don't want to disturb the admins with a problem that has now been fixed (somehow!).

Lavaflow.... I was going to go and look at event manager in boinc so that I can check out the messages it was giving me...when I found everything running as expected. Thanks for the suggestion and sorry that it came to nothing in the end.

Again, whichever admin fixed this for me, thank you very much!
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Re: Work buffer - non existent

Excellent. Possibly the many reruns of the period end process yesterday by techs unlodged something, but sense it doesn't make.
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