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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
A good idea would be to be able to convert the points in discount of new equipment like notebook, in the big brands of the market that could be rum incentive to attract thousands of new users.
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KerSamson
Master Cruncher Switzerland Joined: Jan 29, 2007 Post Count: 1671 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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The basic idea of volunteering is to participate "For FREE ".
----------------------------------------Otherwise it is not volunteering. Happy crunching, Yves |
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KLiK
Master Cruncher Croatia Joined: Nov 13, 2006 Post Count: 3108 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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A good idea would be to be able to convert the points in discount of new equipment like notebook, in the big brands of the market that could be rum incentive to attract thousands of new users. Tried to make that suggestion, back when IBM was producing laptops & workstation (now Lenovo bought that out from IBM). Didn't fall of fertile soil.   |
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cjslman
Master Cruncher Mexico Joined: Nov 23, 2004 Post Count: 2082 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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...incentive to attract thousands of new users. Not to mention attracting hackers and low lifes trying to get something for nothing. This is a volunteering effort where you donate your compuer's free cycles to science and medicine. Let's keep it that way. CJSL Crunching for a better world |
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Ferentzfever
Cruncher Joined: Jan 27, 2013 Post Count: 2 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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Not to mention attracting hackers and low lifes trying to get something for nothing. This is a volunteering effort where you donate your computer's free cycles to science and medicine. Let's keep it that way. Except that it's not "for nothing." When I'm crunching, I leave my computer on 24/7. Per year this costs me ~$400 in electricity -- my heating/AC bill is ~ $720/yr -- and I'm not even that big of a cruncher. Plus, I'd rather a hacker or "low-life" at least crunch numbers for the benefit of society than for mining some bitcoin. And hey, if I got $400 gift-voucher every year for crunching I coulda bought a new system (6-7 yrs old now) with more cores and a better GPU (4 cores atm and NVidia 670) to do even more crunching. Now I'm not saying that anyone should do this, let alone IBM. IBM is doing more than their fair share by hosting & maintaining WCG. Also, I'm pretty sure there are equivalent GridCoin things that handle this. I just disagree wholeheartedly with your "hackers" and "low-lifes" statement. |
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Falconet
Master Cruncher Portugal Joined: Mar 9, 2009 Post Count: 3295 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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Not to mention attracting hackers and low lifes trying to get something for nothing. This is a volunteering effort where you donate your computer's free cycles to science and medicine. Let's keep it that way. Except that it's not "for nothing." When I'm crunching, I leave my computer on 24/7. Per year this costs me ~$400 in electricity -- my heating/AC bill is ~ $720/yr -- and I'm not even that big of a cruncher. Plus, I'd rather a hacker or "low-life" at least crunch numbers for the benefit of society than for mining some bitcoin. And hey, if I got $400 gift-voucher every year for crunching I coulda bought a new system (6-7 yrs old now) with more cores and a better GPU (4 cores atm and NVidia 670) to do even more crunching. Now I'm not saying that anyone should do this, let alone IBM. IBM is doing more than their fair share by hosting & maintaining WCG. Also, I'm pretty sure there are equivalent GridCoin things that handle this. I just disagree wholeheartedly with your "hackers" and "low-lifes" statement. His point is that they would find some way to get points without actually doing the work. Wouldn't be the first time in the BOINC universe, IIRC. AMD Ryzen 5 1600AF 6C/12T 3.2 GHz - 85W AMD Ryzen 5 2500U 4C/8T 2.0 GHz - 28W AMD Ryzen 7 7730U 8C/16T 3.0 GHz |
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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
Mentioned sth. similar in the chatroom earlier.
https://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/forums/wcg/viewthread_thread,41316 Their answers: if you're here to earn - you're are in a wrong pond. Volunteering is intrinsically an altruistic activity done to benefit others rather than yourself. Well, so long and thanks for all the fish They even quoted this thread... |
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cjslman
Master Cruncher Mexico Joined: Nov 23, 2004 Post Count: 2082 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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Not to mention attracting hackers and low lifes trying to get something for nothing. This is a volunteering effort where you donate your computer's free cycles to science and medicine. Let's keep it that way. Except that it's not "for nothing." When I'm crunching, I leave my computer on 24/7. Per year this costs me ~$400 in electricity -- my heating/AC bill is ~ $720/yr -- and I'm not even that big of a cruncher. Plus, I'd rather a hacker or "low-life" at least crunch numbers for the benefit of society than for mining some bitcoin. And hey, if I got $400 gift-voucher every year for crunching I coulda bought a new system (6-7 yrs old now) with more cores and a better GPU (4 cores atm and NVidia 670) to do even more crunching. Now I'm not saying that anyone should do this, let alone IBM. IBM is doing more than their fair share by hosting & maintaining WCG. Also, I'm pretty sure there are equivalent GridCoin things that handle this. I just disagree wholeheartedly with your "hackers" and "low-lifes" statement. |
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mikey
Veteran Cruncher Joined: May 10, 2009 Post Count: 821 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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Not to mention attracting hackers and low lifes trying to get something for nothing. This is a volunteering effort where you donate your computer's free cycles to science and medicine. Let's keep it that way. Except that it's not "for nothing." When I'm crunching, I leave my computer on 24/7. Per year this costs me ~$400 in electricity -- my heating/AC bill is ~ $720/yr -- and I'm not even that big of a cruncher. Plus, I'd rather a hacker or "low-life" at least crunch numbers for the benefit of society than for mining some bitcoin. And hey, if I got $400 gift-voucher every year for crunching I coulda bought a new system (6-7 yrs old now) with more cores and a better GPU (4 cores atm and NVidia 670) to do even more crunching. Now I'm not saying that anyone should do this, let alone IBM. IBM is doing more than their fair share by hosting & maintaining WCG. Also, I'm pretty sure there are equivalent GridCoin things that handle this. I just disagree wholeheartedly with your "hackers" and "low-lifes" statement. The problem is people with 'ranches' of computers, those with more than 20 computers would quickly take every voucher available even if they did find a way to stop the cheaters. LOTS of people have access to work pc's that crunch after work hours for various projects, I have 17 pc's myself with well over 100 cpu cores crunching various projects, do you really think someone is going to give you $400 for using 4 cores and an Nvidia 670 for your donation? My electric bill per month is what yours is per year, not bragging or blaming just stating, it's within my means to be able to do that so I do, when it becomes too much pc's will get shut down or throttled to reduce the costs. Would I love for someone to offset my costs OF COURSE but it's not an option unless I go to the GridCoin Team and crunch for them. Then you CAN get paid some cash for your crunching but it's not enough to pay the electric bill even for you. You have less resources so you make less GridCoins, if you had more and faster machines you would make more GridCoins, BUT you would spend more too and with the price of crypto currency dropping it will NOT offset your costs.   |
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mikey159c
Cruncher Joined: Aug 21, 2008 Post Count: 11 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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A good idea would be to be able to convert the points in discount of new equipment like notebook, in the big brands of the market that could be rum incentive to attract thousands of new users. That sounds GREAT...now where does the money come from? The problem is Boinc is designed so places don't have to spend the money to crunch, we do, and they still get their research done. MOST Boinc projects don't have any spare cash laying around so they rely on us volunteers to do the work at no cost to them. One possible option for you is to join Team GridCoin and get 'paid' that way, yes they will give you a share of the daily allotment of money but it depends on how fast your computers, and how many you have, are on how much you get. But in NO CASE will you make enough money to cover the costs of electricity you spend crunching let along make a profit from it. |
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