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adriverhoef
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Re: There's something rotten in the stats of ...

@ErikaT: Nice to hear! (Also many thanks for the confirmation.)
@knreed: Good that you found a fix!
By looking at one of the results I can probably tell if everything is swell again.
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Re: There's something rotten in the stats of ...

I'll be visible in the stats again. Everybody will. We just need to give it a little time
Confidence paid off. Thank you for the fix biggrin
A note of caution for experimentalists, if you hide your data in my profile, the disappearing is instant on data and forum badges. Enabling again, makes the -local- stats data immediately visible, but the badges wont be until the next stats run.
We live in interesting times .... whether the EU (I'm sorry) tinkered here as well or not
lavaflow, I think you meant to say
if you hide your data in your profile
and not
if you hide your data in my profile wink

We absolutely don't need more anxiety crying laughing
we are a shaken bunch .... worried


EDIT: Subsidiarily you could say: 'if you hide your data in your My Forum Profile'
- where by the way your country should always be visible for the benefit of geographically hooked members whistling

Subsidiarily is a EU re-invented word - we have the subdidiarity principle
- ain't we lucky!
Primarily we should do as the EU wants .... but if we are really good at one thing we may be able to keep it
just may be

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knreed
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Re: There's something rotten in the stats of ...

Things should be back to normal. Please take a look and let us know if you seen anything off.
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Re: There's something rotten in the stats of ...

I could find my numbers in the all-time as well as the yesterday columns,
but we better wait for someone with more
experience in looking at the stats to check it out, knreed
- but to me it's fine smile
Thank you peace

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adriverhoef
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Re: There's something rotten in the stats of ...

Things should be back to normal. Please take a look and let us know if you seen anything off.
Well, at the moment I have 309,062,640 points (it says so at the top of each page when I visit the forum) and when I visit my country's all-time statistics page by points my awarded points seem to be 308,938,491.

I have logged some statistical data regarding my WCG points over the last few days (selected with the mouse and copied/pasted (ctrl-C, ctrl-V) from the top of the page (because my name wasn't mentioned in the rankings), next to my member name):
Statistics Last Updated: 6/13/18 00:48:36 : 308,722,107
Statistics Last Updated: 6/13/18 12:06:02 : 308,832,823
Statistics Last Updated: 6/14/18 00:06:03 : 308,940,271
Statistics Last Updated: 6/14/18 12:06:03 : 309,062,640
(while "Top Members Ranked by Points Generated" says 308,938,491).

In short, there is no exact match. (My Contribution page also states that my amount of generated points is 309,062,640.)

Let's have a look at three of my current statistical data:
 	Total Run Time (y:d:h:m:s) (Rank) 		94:109:08:53:58 (#1,708)
(On my country's page the amount is 94:093:06:52:51).
  	Points Generated (Rank) 		309,062,640 (#495)
(See above.)
	Results Returned (Rank) 		1,760,482 (#118)
(On my country's page the amount is 1,760,358.)
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solomon5
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UK stats appear to be fixed, thanks :)
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adriverhoef
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Re: There's something rotten in the stats of ...

Weird thing still happening after the 2018-06-15 00:00 UTC update.
On My Contribution and viewMemberInfo page it says:
 	Statistics 		adriverhoef 	
Total Run Time (y:d:h:m:s) (Rank) 94:122:12:10:08 (#1,707)
Points Generated (Rank) 309,164,608 (#495)
Results Returned (Rank) 1,760,605 (#118)
but my country's stats report only:
94:122:00:58:03 (ranked 33rd if you want to find my name quickly)
309,162,068 (ranked 7th if you want to find my name quickly)
1,760,597 (ranked 3rd if you want to find my name quickly)

Same kind of differences for user thunder7:
 	Statistics 		thunder7 	
Total Run Time (y:d:h:m:s) (Rank) 285:317:13:43:42 (#332)
Points Generated (Rank) 367,167,535 (#385)
Results Returned (Rank) 734,327 (#405)
but the country's stats report only:
285:316:19:55:58 (ranked 3rd)
367,165,759 (ranked 6th)
734,325 (ranked 9th).

Of course, the rankings differ, that's not my point.

EDIT: More differences, this time for UK's user solomon5:
 	Statistics 		solomon5 	
Total Run Time (y:d:h:m:s) (Rank) 824:261:12:57:50 (#78)
Points Generated (Rank) 881,273,907 (#106)
Results Returned (Rank) 4,006,750 (#41)
but the country's stats report only:
824:261:07:33:16 (ranked 1st)
881,273,064 (ranked 3rd)
4,006,748 (ranked 2nd)

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So there is a change the way country stats work. It used to be that if you changed your country, your whole contribution moved to the new country. This was always deemed a bug but hadn't ever risen to the top of the bug list.

However, with GDPR (yup another item driven by GDPR) we didn't want country stats to go down just because someone deleted their account. This meant that we needed to fix the issue so that we are only updating country stats on a daily basis based on your currently selected country. This means that country stats are now computed just like team stats in that your contribution is credited to the country you are associated with at the end of each day. This also means that a country will not lose stats if a user deletes their account.

This also means that a users total contribution to a country is only updated at the end of the day and will not include any spill over. So in the case of your account you currently have a total contribution of 94:134:15:32:04. You have contributed 0:012:14:34:01 since the last end of day stats run. Your country stats shows 94:122:00:58:03. If you add your contribution for so far today to your country stats then you get your total contribution.

When it runs tonight you should see your country stats total updated to reflect that additional contribution.
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Re: There's something rotten in the stats of ...

While I do understand why this would change for country stats - because they are not exported in xml it breaks any kind of country stats done by 3rd party stats as they just don't have the information in the same way and can only aggregate by user based on the country they have currently...

Perhaps it's time for the standard BOINC exports to contain country data as a separate xml ??
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adriverhoef
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Re: There's something rotten in the stats of ...

@knreed
So, if I'm understanding you correctly, there can always be a small discrepancy — since 13-06-2018 — between the Points that are mentioned at the top of the page and the Points Generated at my country's page? (in my case: the Netherlands)

The situation right now is:
Log Out Hi adriverhoef   Points 309,385,537
at the top of the page, also found in our Member Statistics:
  	thunder7  	367,627,971
adriverhoef 309,385,537
WesWCG 307,078,567
and on the stats page for the Netherlands by points it is a little less:
  	thunder7  	367,623,543
adriverhoef 309,382,996
WesWCG 307,069,663
and that the latter figures will be updated only once per day?
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