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(You were supposed to try to work that out for yourself, but it's a long while since I explained it here so I guess it was overdue.)
You're absolutely right, Apis Tintinnambulator, I should have done the figuring out myself - but then we wouldn't have engaged in this conversation, sending the thread off topic would we? tongue
You do in fact give all the clues in your Forum Profile,
which I as a self proclaimed Forum Profile Inspector want to give top marks

The bell ringing: A long, long time ago I read a detective story by either Agatha Christie or Dorothy Sayers that took place in the Fens and where bell ringing played an important role. And I never forget the bell ringing. I have also happened to hear this live a couple of times. Sometimes you also meet this - I think rather British - phenomenon in films.
It seems to be an art form of its own - and it must be as the craftsmen such as you who teach the apprentices.
Do you have many who want to learn it?
To keep the tradition alive?
Does it have any religious significance?

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Bell ringing of the sort we're talking about ("full circle ringing") is not even sufficiently practised as to be able to be called British, in fact it's peculiarly English. If you'd like to learn more online then I suggest you take a look at www.bellringing.org.

Church tower bells are used to call people to church, but they are also used to mark special occasions and, in theory, to sound a warning. We often ring for weddings, and sometimes for funerals. We also ring them to mark special state occasions. And I rang bells last night to ring in the new year. Personally I'm an atheist, but that doesn't trouble the vicar of the church where I'm tower captain. And the village loves to hear the bells. The bells here were rung for over two and half hours last week, just for fun.

It's a practice which is very ancient and is certainly only just able to keep going. But new bells are still cast and added to existing rings (during the last couple of months I helped put two new bells into the tower I rang at last night) and several individuals have put mini-rings in garages and outbuildings so as to provide a non-ecclesiastical setting within which to ring. As the practice of religion declines and churches become redundant, rings of bells are lost, but we try to re-use bells as much as we can.

As to teaching, it's something that stimulates the mind as well as exercises the body, so it's a great thing to do. But it's so unusual that a lot of people don't want to start. And, because of these dual aspects, people are sometimes put off because they either can't coordinate their body well enough to handle a bell, or can't get their mind around learning the more advanced aspects of change ringing (which, let's face it, is more mathematics than music).

But we're stil doing it!
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Thank you ever so much for giving this insight into bell ringing, Apis Tintinnambulator.
In Denmark bell ringing is going downwards, as well. I don't think we ever had the advanced bell ringing tradition as the English, but we do have wedding and funeral bell ringings, call to service and sun-ups and sun-downs, too (they are automated, now, so the sun has to behave) which are ended with nine 'prayer dongs' in fact 3x3 as you can hear the little pauses. And of course there are the 'Big Ben' types at town halls and what have you, many of which play a melody or varying melodies during the day/year. But that's more decorum that tradition with long roots. I think it's wonderful that you keep this art form alive even if it's uphill.
All of a sudden I began to think of Morris Dancers tongue

And now I should not ask a question about how your English bees are doing smile
Do they suffer from any particular diseases? How about effects from pesticides and herbicides?
- you certainly don't have to answer right away - or ever if you don't care to.

But it's always nice to hear what people who know what they are talking about have to say.
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You love to wander way OT, don't you? smile

Morris dancing is quite similar in many ways. I don't do it, but I know quite a few ringers who do. I suspect it's got something to do with tradition.

As to bees, I can talk about bees for hours, but I do not profess to really know very much. Bee-keepers have a couple of sayings:
1) Ask two bee-keepers the same question and you'll get three different answers, and
2) the bees don't read the same books we do.

In the UK there are two notifiable (to the government -- there is a small number of people with the job title "bee inspector") bee diseases and two notifiable pests. The most recent problem (for some reason not yet officially notifiable, but worrying everyone) is the Asian Hornet.

The agricultural use of pesticides is a thorny problem. The UK and European governments seem to be carefully walking a tightrope to try to keep everyone happy. We need food crops, but we also need pollinators. Monitoring the effects of chemicals and ensuring that good scientific evidence is used to regulate them is very important. In the UK farmers are getting better at keeping bee-keepers informed of when they are spraying, and there is reasonably good communication on both sides. The British Bee-Keepers Association seems to be keeping a steady hand on the tiller.

(That's enough OT chatter -- Ed.)
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You love to wander way OT, don't you? smile
Yes! Sure do. Don't you? biggrin
Morris dancing is quite similar in many ways. I don't do it, but I know quite a few ringers who do. I suspect it's got something to do with tradition.
So my train of thought was not that much off topic of the off topic to which this thread has been brought. Oh, I would think that since I started the thread and the original problem has been solved - by you Apis Tintinnambulator - this couldn't hurt tongue
As to bees, I can talk about bees for hours, but I do not profess to really know very much. Bee-keepers have a couple of sayings:
1) Ask two bee-keepers the same question and you'll get three different answers, and
2) the bees don't read the same books we do.
Three answers! biggrin Our bees cannot read, otherwise they would probably behave similar to the English ones. I see that English beekeepers are not all that different from the Danish ones. I always found beekeepers to be deeply committed in the same way as I have found small rural waterworks people to be. And they can in fact talk for hours about their hobbies/pet projects, and they are well worth listening to.
In the UK there are two notifiable (to the government -- there is a small number of people with the job title "bee inspector") bee diseases and two notifiable pests. The most recent problem (for some reason not yet officially notifiable, but worrying everyone) is the Asian Hornet.
See, this is why it is so nice to pick - in this instance - a beekeeper's brain. I never heard of the Asian Hornet before. As far as the Environmental Agency in Denmark goes it's at our gates in England as well as in Denmark. It's a large shock fellow! It is said to catch and kill the bees at the beehive and displace local bees and hornets. They have a map. It doesn't look good.

We need food crops, but we also need pollinators.
That's a fairly balanced way to look at it.
In the UK farmers are getting better at keeping bee-keepers informed of when they are spraying, and there is reasonably good communication on both sides.
Now that's nice. I'm not sure this takes place in my country, but if the danger for the bees dissipates within a few days, that's a good way to protect the bees. But what do you do? Can you close the 'door' to the beehives and give the bees a quarentine?
(That's enough OT chatter -- Ed.)
Are you sure? biggrin
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Not so fast LM! Yes, you can sort on one column or another but once you start sorting, you can't stop. Try to "un-sort" - you can't. BOINCManager does not sort on any specific column - no arrows - to start with. However, once you click on a column and sort on it, you can't turn it off. All you can do is sort on a different column.

The only manner to get Tasks columns 'unsorted' is to dive into the registry and remove the 2 keys from BOINC Manager: ReverseSortOrder and SortColumn (with BOINC Manager exited).
Somewhere in HKEY_USERS. Open the registry, click on HKEY_USERS, Ctrl-F and search for SortColumn (F3 for next one).
You will probably find several, but then you will see the ones belonging to BOINC Manager's tabs Projects and Tasks.
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shock I would never dare go there, Crystal Pellet!
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I use BOINCTasks to view my clients instead of the BOINC Manager. It can sort and allow for other columns to be sorted after.

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Since I don't like my WUs to stravaig I always sort them on Progress descending.
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Crystal Pellet wrote:
The only manner to get Tasks columns 'unsorted' is to dive into the registry and remove the 2 keys from BOINC Manager: ReverseSortOrder and SortColumn (with BOINC Manager exited).
Somewhere in HKEY_USERS. Open the registry, click on HKEY_USERS, Ctrl-F and search for SortColumn (F3 for next one).
You will probably find several, but then you will see the ones belonging to BOINC Manager's tabs Projects and Tasks.
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shock I would never dare go there, Crystal Pellet!

I don't know if there's something of an equivalent of the '.BOINC Manager' file in your homedirectory for you (like there is on Linux), but on Linux you just edit the '.BOINC Manager' file (with BOINC Manager exited, as Crystal Pellet mentioned), find the section where it says:
[Tasks]
SortColumn=…
ReverseSortOrder=…
and then reset 'SortColumn' to -1:
[Tasks]
SortColumn=-1
ReverseSortOrder=-1
Finally, save the file and quit/leave/exit the editor; then start the BOINC Manager again. blushing
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